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Friday, June 30, 2006

What About Those Alpha Guys?

From Tarzan to Blade to Indiana Jones...
Alpha heroes have always been popular.
But deep down, who are those hunky, take-charge guys so often referenced in romance novels? Depending on whom you ask, an Alpha male might be likened to the biggest jerk imaginable.
I read a lot of comments from readers remarking on a like or dislike of Alpha heroes usually based on a skewed perception of what an Alpha really is.
So let me tell you - if you read a book where the hero was an obnoxious jerk, then he was just that, an obnoxious jerk.
If you read a book where the hero was wonderful and protective and determined to save the world, well, there you go. Hunky hero.
Alphas, like everyone else, come in different personalities. But please know, an Alpha does not automatically mean a know-it-all, bullying, SOB.
Just the opposite, in fact!

Dictionary.com describes "Alpha" as being "the highest ranked or most dominant individual of one's sex."

Please note, it does not say “being a jerk.”
It doesn’t say “cruel and conscienceless.”
It says dominant, which according to the dictionary is "Exercising the most influence or control."
Ah ha!
Control.
Yep, yep, I’d say Alpha Heroes are very much in control, and controlling.
NOT because they want to take away from anyone around them, most especially the heroine, who they hold in high regard.
But because they’re more capable and possess more confidence based on experiences.

Have you ever watched 24? If not, oh honey, you need to!

Jack Bower epitomizes the Alpha male.
I keep telling my husband that if everyone else in that show would just trust Jack, and always do whatever Jack asks of them, the world (at least, the world according to 24) would be a safer place.
Does Jack make mistakes?
Course he does.
Alphas aren’t perfect. They’re human beings doing the best they can with the circumstances before them.
In Jack’s case, while saving the world and all the innocents in it, he errs with compassion, with honor, with a dedication to what he thinks is right and wrong, and with a deep, abiding love of his country.
If Jack needs to kill a man for the better good of his country or to save a hundred thousand other people, he’ll do it.
Then he'll sit in his car, all alone, and suffer greatly because of it.

So here I am, explaining - based on flimsy dictionary descriptions and a really awesome television series - what Alpha heroes aren’t.

Now I’ll tell you what I think they are.

Alpha heroes are, 1st and foremost, emotionally and mentally strong.
True Alphas don’t need to bully or belittle others to feel better about themselves, and in fact, they’d stop anyone else from meanness if it was in their power to do so.

An Alpha hero is a defender of the underdog. Anyone smaller or weaker than himself automatically gets his protection, which also makes him protective and pro-active.

An interesting side note on being pro-active...
I read this personality test (an intelligent one, not a silly one off the net) that showed one major difference between Alpha people, and the rest of us: Their need to act, regardless of what anyone else might think, or their own misgivings.

Did you know that if there’s a crowd of 10 people, and one person collapses, the odds are better that the remaining 9 people will wait to see what someone else plans to do before attempting to help?
It's the old, safe, "wait and see" attitude.

But if there’s an Alpha in the group, he’ll be the first one to his knees, administering whatever CPR he knows – even if he’s never had formal training.

Alphas don’t care what anyone else thinks because they’re so confident and secure in their own worth.

My male protagonist in Say No to Joe? is totally Alpha.


For those of you who read it, remember the tattoo on Joe’s behind?

It read, “I Love Lou.”
(Within the story, you learn why it's there - but I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't read the book.)

The female protagonist, Luna, is surprised that Joe hasn’t had it removed, and asks him if he worries what women think when they see it.
Joe’s response is that no woman would ever question his sexual orientation, especially once she had his pants off, which is the only way she’d see the tattoo.

Usually Alpha’s are physically strong because it would go against their nature to be weak or ineffectual in any way. But those Alphas without physical might will make up for it with mental superiority or good old-fashioned hard work.
One way or another, they’ll stand out as exceptional.

Because they don’t like relying on others, Alphas are independent.
Think Bruce Willis in Die Hard.

Almost single-handedly, his character as John McLane takes down a group of terrorists.
Not just once, but in the sequels as well.
And each time, he’s alone in his efforts, going against authorities to do it – not because John McLane is a law breaker, but because he trusts himself more than anyone else, and never once doubts his perception of the situation.
Naturally, his perception is the right one.

No matter what it is, an Alpha will be sure he can handle it, and handle it right.
That means an Alpha can...

Make love like a stallion. An Alpha’s ego would be enough to ensure he’ll learn what’s necessary because leaving a woman dissatisfied would be a personal insult, a chip to the ego, and no true Alpha would allow that.

For this one, think Mel Gibson as Sergeant Riggs, in Lethal Weapon 2.

Note: In Lethal Weapon, Sergeant Riggs is suicidal over the death of his beloved wife but, when needed, he puts his own suffering aside and kicks some major butt for the better good.
True Alpha behavior!

An Alpha would never cry ignorance at something as simple as laundry, cooking, or disposable diapers. And since changing diapers guarantees interaction with a baby, it proves that Alphas can be tender, too.

When I wrote The Buckhorn Brothers, for Harlequin, the premise sounded very strange in a synopsis.


Four grown brothers, from three different fathers, living together and lending a hand in raising the oldest brother’s son – who wasn’t actually his son at all.
See?
Sounds very odd, doesn’t it?
Yet that series: Sawyer, Morgan, Gabe, Jordan, and later, Casey, remains one of my most popular series with readers. I think it’s because they were the truest of Alphas.

Independent Alpha would never depend on someone else to complete a task that he can learn. He’s confident enough to share responsibilities, but for instance, if his wife/woman gets ill, he’ll insist on caring for her.
And if the Alpha happens to be rich, he might pay someone to do tasks for him, but not because he can’t do them himself, or is too lazy to do them.
That means an Alpha would never sit in front of the TV (day after day) drinking a beer while his wife worked tirelessly on house and food and kids.
(Everyone gets a day off, though, including the wife!)

In that regard, the Buckhorn brothers didn’t care what anyone thought of them living together. They willingly lent a hand to anyone in need. They loved Casey, regardless of his parentage, and not only did they divide the chores of laundry, cooking and grocery shopping, they reveled in everything concerning Casey, including bath time and diapers.

Let's don’t forget Denzel Washington, in Man on Fire.

Okay, Denzel's character doesn’t change diapers, but he relates to a young Dakota Fanning better than her own parents. He starts out as a burnt out, bitter man wasting his exceptional abilities, and through common sense and compassion, he not only loves Dakota’s character, but he allows her to change him for the better.
What a hero!

Some of my favorite Alphas today, which have inspired my current series of books such as Jude’s Law and Causing Havoc (not out until Feb 07) are from the Pride and UFC fighting circuit.

It’s such a striking contrast to watch men do battle with strength, wit and determination, and yet, win or lose, they show respect and friendship to one another.
Most of my favorite fighters are in committed relationships.
They're all in excellent shape with muscles on muscles.
And they're all courteous and considerate.
While holding a giant trophy, smiling around a mouthpiece, mottled with bruises and sometimes blood, they say hello to their mothers, blow kisses to their wives, or wave to their children. They say "sir" and "ma'am." They are grateful and sincere, and that, to me, is extremely sexy.

So who's my favorite?
I think Bas Rutten epitomizes STUD. He's married, has 3 daughters, does great commentary on the fights, was a champion when he still fought, and shows such an incredible respect to everyone, while being super funny and obviously smart. He's all that... he'd make a great hero in a book!
That's why he’ll be the inspiration for the next single title that I start.
(At least, I hope he will be. But if my editor has a problem wtih him being bald... well, I may need to reconsider that. )
Alphas are smart, and by being smart, they don’t show prejudice against anyone because of race or sex. Remember Tarzan, the original Alpha? He could barely speak English. I think "Ungawa" was one of his favorite words, though I'm not sure what it meant. I think it was a catch all to direct elephants, defeat tigers, and woo Jane.

However wild Tarzan might have been, he always tried to care for anyone smaller, weaker, or in a difficult situation.
(BTW, did you know the original Tarzan flicks were unrated, and therefore Jane was shown naked many times! Total, complete nudity! On TV.
My husband and I were watching old b/w shows one day and saw it. Shocked me, it did. But it was also very funny to see.)
Alphas trust in their own abilities a lot, but they don’t put their own worth above others.
Overall, Alphas are honorable, protective, kind, and yes, controlling.


Some of my favorite MOVIE Alpha Heroes are:
* Harrison Ford, in Indiana Jones
* Wesley Snipes, in Blade
* Bruce Willis, in Die Hard
* Denzel Washington, in Man On Fire
* Kiefer Sutherland, in 24
and yes
*Tarzan

Some of my favorite BOOK Alpha Heroes are:
* James Mallory, Gentle Rogue by Johanna Lindsey
* Anthony Mallory, Tender Rebel by Johanna Lindsey
* Knight Winthrop, Nightfire by Catherine Coulter
* Duncan of Wexton, Honor’s Splendor by Julie Garwood
* Dane Hollister, Dream Man by Linda Howard
* Wolf Mackenzie, Mackenzie’s Mountain by Linda Howard

Who are some of your favorite Alphas, either in movies, books, or in real life?
And lastly, would you be turned off by a hero with a shved head, ala the photo of Bas Rutten above? I really am curious about that one!
Weeeeellll.... that's it from me. A slight rant on what those super sexy Alpha hunks are really about.
And it's not meanness or cruelty.
I suppose because I love to write them, I feel compelled to explain them.

Have an awesome weekend everyone!
HUGS!

54 Comments:

Anonymous Cch said...

Lori:
Don't know specifically about shaved heads. But...Bald Alphas? How about Captain Picard (Patrick Stewart) from Star Trek? Fantastic! And Admiral Chedwiggen from JAG had PLENTY of female fans. And let's not forget Sean Connery...and Vin Diesel...and your aforementioned Bruce Willis...

8:33 AM  
Blogger robin said...

WHOO HOOO VIN DIESEL! :o) I think I just swooned! LOVED men with shaved heads.

Favorite Alphas...Robert Redford in "An Unfinished Life" Damian Lewis in "A Band of Brothers" Vin Diesel in "The Fast and the Furious."
I think my favorite alpha character ever is Batman. To me, he is the epitome of alpha male, especially as described above. In books, in comics, and on the screen. This is why the 60s series was sooo lacking. It didn't have any of the darkness that defines the character.
(Jack Bauer is a serious second.)

Another great topic! I can't wait to see everyone's answers.

8:52 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

cch, Sean Connery is too yummy!

I liked Vin Diesel best in Pitch Black. Awesome flick. And Knock Around Guys was good too. Heck, I even enjoyed him in The Pacifier.
;-)

Blade is probably my all time favorite Alpha. Such an incredible series.
But I really like all the superheroes.

Lori

9:53 AM  
Blogger Emeraldax said...

Oh no! My comment got wiped in the switcheroo. Well, my Men are worth repeating myself:

My favorite all time Alpha Male (and that's saying alot!) is Zach Slater from All My children. I have never been so bowled over by a fictional character. Here is a quote from yesterday's show, which sums things up quite nicely:

"Judge: If I am to believe the arguments in your favor, Mr. Slater, I would be hard-pressed not to consider you somewhat of a hero. Both your wife and your attorney painted you as a man who took desperate measures in the name of love, honor, and integrity. The state, however, presented a very different case, but not a commendable one. You locked yourself away with a comatose wife. You threatened to shoot anyone who crossed your path, you fired a gun in a public health facility. That is not only destructive, it is reprehensible. You're an arrogant man, Mr. Slater. Recklessly, defiantly so."

His portrayer, Thorsten Kaye, is even better! TK is, in my mind, a true Renaissance man. He is a phenomenal actor who has been nominated multiple times for Lead Actor at the Daytime Emmys. He is a published poet. He rides a Harley. He adores his wife and three yr old daughter. I have met him several times, and he is charming, witty, and very warm.

Other favorite TV Alpha Males: The men of CSI. Specifically, Horatio on Miami, Grissom on LV, and Mac on NY. Not traditionally handsome men, but sooo magnetic. I find myself sighing wistfully when I watch them, hee! I also love Jack Bristow from Alias, but I think he is too edgy to be a true Alpha Male.

Moviewise, Cary Grant, Hugh Jackman, James Garner, Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson, the list goes on.

In books, my two favorites are Mr. Rochester and Mr. Darcy. My favorite movie versions are Timothy Dalton and Colin Firth. I love each and every one of JAK's heroes. I'm falling in love with JD Robb's Roarke. I wouldn't say that Lilian Jackson Braun's Qwilleran is an Alpha Male, but he gets an honorable mention.

That's all for now.

11:04 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Alphas.

YUM.

Anybody who reads me know how I love the alphas--their strength, their vulnerability, their intelligence, their guy-ness, their stubbornness, their courage.

Been married to one almost 40 years. It just gets better. Alphas go the distance.

11:05 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Elizabeth, you are a hoot! Today is my anniversary - 28 years that I've been married to an Alpha, too.

Loved your comment, "their guy-ness." :-)

Lori

11:54 AM  
Blogger Fan1tasy said...

Lori, Loved your alphas. I'm not sure I can top them but I will try:

-Angel from the TV series, Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel.
-John Crichton from the TV series, Farscape
-Robin Hood
-Peter Parker/Spiderman
-Aragorn from LOTR by Jrr Tolkien
-Ty from Reckless Love by Elizabeth Lowell
-Gryph from Shield's Lady by Jayne Ann Krentz
-Acheron from the Dark Hunters series by Sherrily Kenyon
-Drew from Captive of My Desires by Johanna Lindsey
-Sand Tiger from the Sword series by Jennifer Roberson
-Jean Claude from the Anita Blake series by Laurell K Hamilton
-Jude from Jude's Law by Lori Foster

Thanks for letting me share a few of my favs.

1:07 PM  
Blogger DFender said...

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1:17 PM  
Blogger DFender said...

I'm an idiot. That ^ was my delete. Sorry. I knew I'd forget something!

Rowr... I'm married to one too and cannot begin to tell you how much better he is each year. My real-life hero.

Lori, bald (whether naturally or shaved) is hot... y'know, as long as the rest of the package is alpha too...lol

Sports Alpha:
Howie Long - Oakland Raiders, ret.

TV/Movie Alphas:
Adrian Paul - The Highlander
Dean Cain - Superman

Literary Alphas:
All of the Rarities and St. Kilda Consulting Heros... especially Joe

All of the Toussaint Men... including the Good Father

Good-guy Ghost Hunters/Guild Men and Compassionate Corporate Moguls alike in Miss Jayne's stories...

Lucky... Lucky's Lady - Tami Hoag

Jude... Jude's Law mmhmmm - Lori

Catherine Coulter's "alphas" have grabbed me from the beginning as have Karen Marie Moning's, Nora Robert's, Sherrilyn Kenyon's, Laurel K. Hamilton's and several others.

What can I say? Alpha heros are MUCHO MACHO important in my entertainment... but hey, their counterparts rock too.

Great blog topic... rowr, rowr, rowr...

Deb

hxarxs: ack

1:24 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

This is a favorite topic of the Tigress, so I'll sneak in while she's not around and make her favorite point: Alphas are the people others naturally turn to for leadership, rather than people who impose control on others. I first came across the term back in the 60s, when Robert Ardrey's books popularizing animal studies and theories about aggression in humans, including African Genesis and The Territorial Imperative came out. (Incidentally, Ardrey was a screenwriter who wrote such alpha-heroic films as THE THREE MUSKETEERS and QUENTIN DURWARD.)

Not that much of a film fan myself, but my notion of an alpha is Henry V in Shakespeare's play, as portrayed by either Laurence Olivier or Kenneth Branagh. I agree with a lot of the others listed (though I prefer they not be bald).

Another quality of the alpha male in romance is that he is vulnerable, which is the flip side of his caring. One of the commonest patterns in JAK's books, which I find very appealing, is the "outsider" alpha hero who is drawn into a family or connected group by his relationship with the hero. Of course, even when he's a loner, he may well be helping to raise nephews. Jayne's heroes are true alphas in the Lorenz/Ardrey sense--pack leaders who help teach and protect the cubs.

There is also a kind of alpha that really doesn't have a clue about women; so that although he's a dominant male in most aspects of life, the heroine can run rings around him. I call this the Gurt Jan Ridd syndrome, from the hero of Lorna Doone. Clarence Budington Kelland did this a lot, and I usually find it annoying. But it works wonderfully in the book I'm reading now--Linnea Sinclair's Finders Keepers. The heroine rescues the hero when he crash-lands on the uninhabited planet she's parked on. What he doesn't tell her is that he is the Senior Captain of the Imperial Fleet, famous for striking terror into the hearts of all, especially his crew. So she bosses him around, has him do the laundry when it's his turn, and is of course absolutely infuriated when she finds out the truth, especially since she's recently been dumped by a guy who found a mere tramp freighter captain too socially inferior.

They are in love, of course, but he's a creche-raised product of genetic engineering who doesn't know how to court her properly. But he mostly does all the right things, because he has all the right instincts. (Incidentally, as for being the terror of the Fleet, we find out that his crew is devoted to him and has no qualms about telling him when he's being a pain in the neck.) It's both terrific space opera and a terrific romance. And what's not to love about a guy who, after the Fleet has shot your ship to pieces (not his idea), salvages not only your data bank but your faithful antique robot and your plush toy cat?

I think the difference between the jerk and the true alpha is just this element of caring and vulnerability.

qopdmni -- Quite often powerful dominant males need intimacy.

2:49 PM  
Blogger Shiloh Walker said...

I love your version of Alpha, Lori.

Doesn't mean the guy has to be totally domineering, to the point of being an ass.

*G*

Some of my fave alphas?

Books...

Dash, from Elizabeth's WOlf by Lora Leigh

Duncan Reever from the Stardoc series by SL Viehl. This isn't a romance although it does have a lot of romance in it. I adore Duncan.

Luke Callahan from Honest Illusions by Nora Roberts

I love a lot of the movies you listed~especially Bruce Willis.

And I love Stabler from Law and Order: SVU.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bald? Depends on the guy. Vin pulls it off nicely. Write a good alpha and who cares if he's bald?

2 of my all time fave book alphas are from Elizabeth Lowell:

Tennessee Blackthorne "Outlaw" and Cole in "Diamond Tiger".

28 years & counting with my alpha :)

KathyLynn

5:45 PM  
Anonymous Louis said...

Ah...TALPIANNA

Glad to find another Clarence Buddington Kelland fan. Started reading him in the old Saturday Evening Post...many umpteen years ago.

You ladies have pretty much listed all the favorite Alpha Heroes.

Elizabeth's, Jaynes, Nora's, Lori's,Johanna's, Carla Neggers, and too many to mention.

rxsdhi green

real (e)xperts serve delightful heroes judishly

7:07 PM  
Blogger Cora said...

I agree with all of the examples mentioned except Jack Bauer from 24. He may have started out as a classic protective Alpha male in the first season, when he was trying to save his family, but in subsequent season he turned into a jerk who murders and tortures people, including innocent ones, with barely a second thought. Even if the murders and tortures are supposedly in the name of the greater good, it still doesn't make it right. Jack Bauer is not an alpha, just an asshole.

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

Lori, I'm in the middle of one of your books, so I can't stop long (I want to get back to it! *g*) but just thought I'd mention that one of my first crushes was Yul Brenner in King and I.
Besides, believe me, if you write it, bald will be hot.

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jack Reacher from Lee Child's series is an independent Alpha. Ex-Military Police, a loner but always knows and looks out for the underdog.

3:41 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Hey everyone,
Im going backward again. Makes it easier on my old eyes. ;-)

Shoshana, thank you! I appreciate the reassurance.

Cora, I couldn't disagree more, but to each her own. Jack is my hero! LOL. I adore him.

I've thought of another, too! From Deadwood - Seth Bullock. Man, I LOVE that show! But I'm always a season behind because I can't commit to a show each week. Instead I wait for the DVD release.

Tal, what a great point you made! Alphas are the people others turn to. I love that! And it's so true.

dfender & fan1tasy, thanks for including Jude in your lists! I just love writing those macho guys. ;-)

Last night I kept thinking of more and more Alphas, but now this morning my brain is too sluggish to recall any of them. LOL.

All of the superheroes, of course. I really like Wolverine. Yum!

Have a fab Saturday!

Lori

3:42 AM  
Blogger susanna in alabama said...

My favorite romance author in the 1980s and into the early 1990s (before I started reading many historicals) was Diana Palmer, and it's because of her alphas. One of hers is still on my favorites shelf after many years. My number one favorite is Gabriel in A Secret Love by Stephanie Laurens. Then there are the Quills and Squawkers - too many favorites there to name them all. But I have to say Bram Giles in Luring Lucy was amazing, Lori! That's the story that introduced me to your work, and I've reread it a bunch. I also started reading Amanda Quick from the first, and have dearly loved the Krentz/Quick alphas.

I agree with you on Jack Bauer, Lori. I just watched Seasons 1-3 on DVD, and he just keeps getting better. In movies and TV, I love Bruce Willis, Denzel Washington, most of Harrison Ford's work and a few others. In non-romance books, Tom Clancy does a great alpha, as does Robert Crais (Elvis Cole), Michael Connelly (Harry Bosch), and James Patterson (Alex Cross - while I love Morgan Freeman in Kiss the Girls, Denzel is more like Cross in the books).

As for bald... who would dare say Bruce Willis isn't sexy? I would say more so since going bald. Sean Connery is gorgeous, and for all that he wasn't my type, Kojak in the good ole 1970s was very compelling. And I've noticed that naturally balding men usually have more body hair than men who don't go bald, and I'm a fan of cuddly, hairy men. I say, write that bald hero, Lori! I know you'd make him everything we fans of alphas go for...

8:04 AM  
Blogger Kathy K said...

Hmmm, I'll try this again ^.^

Bald or hair - makes no never mind to me; some of the sexiest men alive are bald (IMHO) ~ Sean Connery certainly tops my list! I have ALWAYS liked Bruce Willis; he's another, like Mr. Connery, that gets better with age. Some of my favourite alphas:

Movies / TV:
~ MEL GIBSON in just about anything... but I LOOOOOOVE any of the Lethal Weapon movies - Danny Glover rocks my boat too!
~ Sean Connery in "The Rock", any James Bond film, "Red October" and "Finding Forrester"
~ Pierce Brosnan in "Remington Steele" and his James Bond movies
~ Harrison Ford in "Air Force One", "Patriot Games", and as Indiana Jones (esp with Sean Connery in #3)
~ Nicholas Cage in "The Rock"

Books:
~ Just about ANY of JAK's heros are high on my list, but especially: Tobias March {Amanda Quick}; Emmett London and Cooper Boone {Jayne Castle}; Teague Severance {JAK ~ Sweet Starfire}; Gryph {Amanda Glass ~ Shield's Lady}
~ LOTS of Lori's alphas *drool* but the top-contenders are:
Joe Winston, Jude Jamison, Noah Harper and Alec Sharpe
~ Janet Evanovich's Joe Morrelli and Ranger
~ Harry Bosch from Michael Connelly
~ John Rain from Barry Eisler
~ Jack Reacher from Lee Child
~ Joe Pike (and Elvis Cole) from Robert Crais
~ Jack Ryan from Tom Clancy
~ Milo Sturgis from Jonathan Kellerman

So, anyway, this is me NOT going on and on... can anyone say "uh huh"?
But I do love an Alpha ~ I truly adore wolves, so the alpha thing is strong in me. I especially love the alpha male who is first and foremost human; he makes mistakes, he knows he makes mistakes (and hates it), but does what needs to be done. And the Alpha I love best is a true family man.

So, thanks for such an awesome topic... one that gets me drooling and dreaming; my husband of almost 23 years doesn't mind my obsession... he benefits! ^,^

9:47 AM  
Blogger TashaDMS said...

I don't think bald would be a turn off... in fact I've never been crazy about most characters in books being beautiful, men and women alike. I think it is more important for them to be realistic and to be well fleshed out in personality. Someone that you would really want to win not because he or she is beautiful but because they are an exceptional character. That's just my thought, though. So bald, short, or ugly as long as they have a personality that makes the read worth it then I'm all for it!

I think my very favorite Alpha would have to be Wolfe from Elizabeth's "Only" series. I'm a big fan of almost all of her Alpha's. Another worth mentioning would be Simon from “Enchanted.” I’m also a big fan of Seeley Booth in the TV series Bones and as someone else mentioned Adrian Paul from Highlander.

9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think bald men are very sexy. Especially if they have a good sense of humor, are caring and helpful. Thanks for the blog about Alpha Males. I have never encountered one in real life I must say. I think my husband shows some traits but not all. I love him anyway! :-)

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Wayne is a fantastic alpha male.
Russell Crowe, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp in Pirates and how about the ultimate alpha male, KING KONG ( sorry I just saw the movie and had to add) :-)

12:20 PM  
Anonymous AgTigress said...

Lori said: Tal, what a great point you made! Alphas are the people others turn to. I love that! And it's so true.

The interesting corollary of this is that an alpha individual is not necessarily the one strutting and swaggering about issuing orders and pushing people around. In fact, those characteristics are often typical of the self-centred, insecure bully who will collapse like a house of cards when things get rough.

The alpha, male or female, is the one who comes through in a crisis, the one who takes responsibility, who gets things done, who is competent, conscientious and confident when it matters. In one of the scores of discussions on this subject in which I have taken part on different boards (this was why I didn't weigh in here, because I have said it all before so many times!), the character of Loretta Chase's hero in the book Mr. Impossible came up, and people said some rather foolish things about 'beta' characters. He is anything but a classic, obvious, stereotyped 'alpha', it is true, but when the chips are down, people turn to him, and he does what is needed. That's the test.

1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For bald guys - Billy Zane in the Mummy! I know he was the bad guy, but he played the good guy in The Phantom! (But I think he looked better bald!)

wgwama - will go wild about most alpha's!

Evie

4:39 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

KathyK: I don't see how you can call Milo Sturgis an alpha. He's a great character, and a terrific cop; but as a gay man, he's an outcast in the LAPD, rather than a natural leader. (Aside from not being the hero of the books--Alex Delaware is!) I like and admire Milo a lot, but he's not very attractive to me--not because he's gay, but because he's a slob!

I think the hero of MR. IMPOSSIBLE, as cited by the Tigress, is an excellent example of what might be called the "laid-back alpha," a title that also applies to many of Kelland's heroes, so may go with the Gurt Jan Ridd syndrome to some extent, though not all GJR heroes are laid back. I mean the guy who doesn't assert himself unless there is an emergency, and is usually fairly mild-mannered. Lord Peter Wimsey is another such.

I forgot to mention two of my favorites in my earlier post--Val Con yos'Phelium and Shan yos'Galan, cousins and foster brothers, in the Liaden Universe books of Sharon Lee and Steve Miller. Shan is the laid-back type; as a Master Trader he finds it useful to be underestimated. Val Con is a First-In Scout. And their heroines, Priscilla and Miri, are definitely good matches for them. Priscilla is a witch, and Miri is a retired sergeant of mercenaries. And the Turtles are pretty alpha, too.

qbupq -- Quills' books usually popular--quite!

5:01 PM  
Blogger Karibear said...

Hmm. I don't watch movies any more, but I do like Mel Gibson and Harrison Ford.

As for books, there's most of the heroes created by the RWQ ladies [I say most, cuz I haven't read them all!], most of Nora Roberts' guys, most of Louis L'Amour's Sacketts, Elvis Cole and Joe Pike, Jack Reacher, and the Masterharper of Pern.

As for the shaved heads, think of Yul Brynner! It's not the hair or lack of it, it's the mind and personality under that scalp.

7:44 PM  
Blogger Stella said...

Great blog and wonderful responses. I particularly like tigress's analysis of how often the alpha character isn't the one doing all the swaggering. Just some of the swaggering:)

Thank you Deb for mentioning my Toussaint men. I particularly enjoyed that you included Father Cyrus who is what I would term, a conflicted alpha!

Bald is beautiful as far as I'm concerned, Lori. Bring 'em on. In your fine hand the result will be irresistible.

Stella

9:27 PM  
Blogger Chez said...

Ok I'll be the lone anti bald romance hero voice. I prefer 'em with hair .. lots of hair. In fact as romance is my fantasy not my reality I want LONG hair. I have never seen the allure of the Vin Diesel type and love the descriptions of long luscious locks on a man. Although having said all that, I will say I definitely want a bald back (hairy backs are definitely not in my fantasy). So there you go, pelt me with tomatoes or stuff, but it's true. I don't mind receding, I don't mind short, I don't even mind buzz cut or cut really short with weird shapes shaved into it, but just not out and out bald. I know, I'm sad and I could even say that if anyone could write it well it would be you Lori, but give me Hair.

10:21 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

Chez, this one's for you--hair on the head but not on the back:

http://www.dbeyr.com/images/shaved_cat.jpg

bprlxh -- But please, really luscious XYY heroes!

12:55 AM  
Blogger susanna in alabama said...

I don't mind back hair at all... but I do mind back hair that sticks up above a man's collar. I knew a guy like that once, and it was just... not attractive. It could also have been partly because his body hair was straight, rather than curly, and he resembled a brown sheep dog more than a manly man. But that may also have been because of his demeanor.

I confess that I like long hair on men too - the elves in LOTR were very yummy! I guess the bottom line for me is, I like a man who is manly and enjoys being manly, regardless of his level of hirsuteness.

1:02 AM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

So after all this talk about Alpha males, I now have a question -can you write a good romance with a beta male as the romantic lead?
If anyone knows of an example, please tell me!

3:23 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Hey Shoshana, I've read Beta males, but I don't think I could write one. A good example would be Virgina Kantra's novels. I can't think of the specific title right now, but the heroine's friend had a very abusive (physically even) boyfriend or husband, and when the heroine went with her girlfriend to confront him on something, the hero agreed to wait outside. It really, really worked within the story, and showcased how he trusted her, and the heroine's strength, but I don't think I could make one of my heroes do that. LOL. A hero of mine might agree to go in quietly and not beat the guy into the ground, but he would go in. Period. Just to make sure, ya know... And to maybe stare at the guy, giving a threat without saying a single word. LOL


That's too funny about back hair/ long hair/ what about hairy feet??? Seriously, my son has a friend who has the hairiest feet. He looks like a hobbit or something. But he's a really cute guy. (A baby, in my view, but I reckon not to his girlfriend.)

You know, I'm not a fan of long hair, but I guess it depends on the guy and the type of hair he has. I have seen guys who looked good with longer hair, and other guys who just looked ridiculous.
Steven Segal, for example, looked great with long hair in his youth. Now he really, really needs a hair cut! LOL

Oh, whoever said Billy Zane in the mummy - yes yes! Very sexy hunk.

Stella, I also liked the comment about the Alpha being the quieter guy, not the swaggering one. Alphas observe things. They size things up. They catch everything going on.
And then they act if necessary.

One Alpha I forgot was Jack on LOST. (Again, we're behind the series, waiting for it to come out on DVD) But does anyone remember the show where Jack gave blood, swam out in the surf to save someone, disarmed another, settled a dispute, etc, etc...?
My husband and I both cracked up. Every time something happened on the island, everyone looked at Jack. You'd think with him being the only doctor, they'd put in a nice cushioned spot to keep him safe, but no.
Something is happening? Quick, send Jack. LOL

You're all terrific! Thanks for all the fun comments.
(and ignore any and all typos. I was up late, then up early. The brain is not yet functioning properly!)

Lori

4:30 AM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

Ooo, good timing, I'm heading to the library today (big cities have one thing in their favour -libraries open on Sundays!) and now I can check out Virgina Kantras.

What do you think of Tom Sellick in Quiggley Down Under as an Alpha Male? Over the top or true alpha? (I cried when he was leaving her in town and stopped to look back because Roy hadn't.)

I like long hair, too. Lol, but I did used to get jealous when I met someone with longer hair than mine, boy or girl! Then my braid got tangled in my bike chain and now I keep it shorter and don't care. I still think that brushing someone else's hair is one of the most intimate non-sexual things you can do, though. (Lol, I guess it can be pretty sexual, but you know what I mean. Or, I hope you do. Bah.)

Lori, I just finished Jude's Law and now I want to know if you've done Ashley's story yet, and what it's called. How come I didn't know about you before this? Seriously, I've been missing out. Sigh. Ah, well, gives me lots to do this summer. :)

5:51 AM  
Anonymous Cch said...

Questions: Does the alpha male need [require, prefer, select] an alpha female? Don't wolf packs have an alpha PAIR? And why do we never --- OK, rarely --- talk about alpha females? IS there such a thing? Who would SHE be?

7:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Quills have alpha females. One in particular that comes to mind is Silver Snare by Stephanie James (JAK). It takes a strong alpha female to handle an alpha male.

9:07 AM  
Blogger Karibear said...

Hey, I LIKE Steven Segal - and the long hair is part of it. I really prefer long hair, back in the old old days I had a very bad experience with a clean-cut fraternity-type that permanently put me off the short-haired and clean-shaven types.

As for Alpha females, there are lots. I'll admit the ones that come most readily to mind are more often from mysteries and sci/fi. Think of The Sheepfarmer's Daughter, or all the Kate Shugak stories. Or Anita Blake, vampire hunter. Or from a totally different perspective, The Beekeeper's Apprentice - any character, male or female, who can keep up successfully with Sherlock Holmes definitely has it going, and if he's impressed enough to actually marry her... well. I can think of so many strong women - all a match for whichever men they end up with.

And I can think of a few stories where the Alpha male has a Beta female - usually along the line of he's in psychic or emotional trauma of some kind, due usually to a war experience, and she provides him with understanding, acceptance as he is, and creates a refuge for him. Sounds hokey, but at times it does work. [And sometimes it's a disaster, but that's not the question.]

9:57 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

cch--yes, wolf packs have an alpha pair.

IMHO (snort!), Alpha calls to alpha. When the going gets tough, you need someone you can count on.

And the going always gets tough.


(sorry Lori, I didn't feel up to experimenting with the beautiful sig you made me. //bang)

10:23 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

I wrote a female mercenary - Ray - in Unexpected, and she was definitely Alpha.

I can think of lots of Alpha femalse on TV. Think Alias, for one. Or Buffy. Lots of fun!

Elizabeth, experiment only when you're up to it. I'm not sure it'd work on this anyway, since only a few thml tags work. I'll give it a shot now and see if it does on here... but I don't think it will.
Nope, it won't. Sorry. Only when you're posting your main blogs! Not these replies. :-)

Lori

1:05 PM  
Blogger Jay said...

Oh, hot flushes first thing on a monday morning. Wakes you up quicker than coffee. *g*

On the bald subject - shaved works fine for this alpha fan, but I don't think it would appeal if the guy was actually balding naturally. Alpha implies testosterone, and testosterone produces hair growth.

As for my favourite alphas - Gregori of the Carpathians is my newest crush. Strong, sexy, dangerous and dedicated to loving his lady.

Ms Ann's Rafael from Forget Me Not has always been one of my "I wish they were real" characters. Same with Roarke. Linda Howard's Webb and Wolf. Tami Hoag's Lucky. Kelley Armstrong's Clayton.

I could go on. *g*

I also have a special fondness for Vin Diesel and Johnny Depp - but themselves, not as characters. They're both funny, smart, talented men.

imozhr - immortal men overwhelm zealous heroines regularly

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

I've just read about the wolf alpha pair. Isn't there something similar with wild horses, perhaps tamed ones too, where there's a the stallion of the herd who must sometimes fight against he younger ones? But there's also a lead, or let's say alpha, mare who keeps the young ones in check and will chase one or another out of the bounds of the herd, usually colts, until they learn manners or whatever they are supposed to learn for the safety of the herd. Apparently, just one look from the mare can get this job done. I don't know how the "alpha" mare is chosen, maybe by the stallion, but it's usually an older one who knows the dangers that a herd can face and who's made her place amongst her fellows.

I'm sure that any group of animals fares best with an alpha in charge, one who's concerned for the group as a whole and strong enough to defend his position as leader. But I think it's not always males, either.

Definitely, the most interesting and admirable heroes are the Alphas.

I've been a Jack Bauer fan since the beginning of the series. The concept appealed to me and then, of course, all 3 members of the Bauer family were played by Canadians, though technically Kiefer was born while his parents were acting in the U.K. And Kiefer's maternal grandfather, Tommy Douglas, was voted The Greatest Canadian a few years ago in the TV biographies of the name.

Another of my Alpha TV heroes is Cmdr. Harmon Rabb in JAG. He even leaves the navy in order to make sure that Mac survives her time in South America, takes a young girl under his wing to allow her to go to school and innumerable times takes care of the "little" and deprived people.

I'll take some of my favorite books from older authors. Elswyth Thane's books all have great Alpha heroes. Joffrey de Peyrac from the Angélique series by Sergeanne Golon is a model Alpha. Then there are the Duke of Abbercombe in Judith A. Landsdowne's "The Bedevilled Duke"; Prince Boris Pirov in Ruth Freeman Solomon's "The Candlesticks and the Cross"; and the hero in Lew Wallace's "The Fair God". And I'm in agreement with the ones you've already mentioned in your booklist, Lori. And how could I forget Atticus Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "Boo" as well. In his own special way, he's an Alpha too.

8:36 PM  
Blogger Stella said...

I gotta put in 20c worth here. In another life I had something to do with dermatology. Research (nope, I'm not going to search out references--this is just an interesting aside) concluded that male balding may be associated with increased potency. As in, often bald men have high sperm motility. Now we all know what the result of that might be:)

Cheers, Stella

11:01 PM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Another Alpha female I thought of last night! Sigourney Weaver in Alien. Yikers. Do they come any more Alpha than that?

Stella, thank you. Shew. With a balding husband, who I think is pretty dang Alpha, I'm glad you cleared that up. LOL.
He hasn't shaved his head yet, but he keeps it "buzzed" with no clip attachment, so it's mega, mega short.

It's 5:30 am here, I just took the doggies out, and it's already so hot and muggy you can barely breathe. It's going to be a scorcher!

Lori

2:43 AM  
Anonymous AgTigress said...

Ranurgis: you are right about the social organisation of wild and feral horses. Stallions collect small bands of mares, and these separate bands make up much larger, more loosely organised, herds, but each band always has a mature lead mare - who is, in fact, the leader in all everyday matters. The stallion is more like a kind of bodyguard, the brawn rather than the brains of the outfit. That's rather a sweeping generalisation. The point is that both the boss stallion and the lead mare are necessary to the social functioning of the group, and both are high-status individuals who have equally important, dovetailing, functions. I recommend Stephen Budiansky's book The Nature of Horses.

Interestingly, the social organisation of donkeys is completely different. Stallions are comparatively solitary individuals who command territory rather than a group of mares: the mares run their own bands of females and young. This is one of the reasons why asses do not respond to human training in the same way as horses do - they are worrying about territorial considerations, where a horse is simply content to do as the leader has ordained.

6:13 AM  
Blogger Jay said...

If you're interested, Ranurgis, expanding on from what AgTigress has said, there is an American gentleman by the name of Monty Roberts who uses himself the position of lead mare to train horses. It's an extremely interesting method - he has a book called The Man Who Listens To Horses, and I highly recommend it.

12:06 AM  
Blogger talpianna said...

I just saw the perfect alpha male. I watched Harrison Ford in PATRIOT GAMES for the umpteenth time. (I wonder if they scheduled it because they mistook it for the Mel Gibson Revolutionary War flick of similar name?)

The guy is a caring husband and father, smarter than the average CIA intelligence analyst, and an ex-Marine who jumps into action when he can save people from an IRA attack. A real laid-back alpha, easygoing and tender with his daughter, when not engaged in to-the-death hand-to-hand combat with an IRA renegade on a burning boat. I love that film, despite the fact that Hercule Poirot's faithful Captain Hastings from the MYSTERY! series is one of the villains.

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2:08 AM  
Anonymous Lori of Canada said...

I have to remember to check this site more often. Great discussion.

Love your explanation, Lori!!! Too many people make the mistakes that you debunk. Me? I love alpha guys. Love them. A guy who can take control and not be a pompous ass (which alphas are not) is drool worthy.

I also know that the three dimensional alphas you write are part of the reason I loved your books from the get go.

I don't know who else to include for the list, though. I think most of my fictional alpha males have been taken (Although I want to include JR Ward's characters, as I have recently discovered her books) and Roarke from the In death series.

Movie/TV wise... Did anyone mention Hugh Jackman (Wolverine). Hubba hubba. Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones and in Star Wars. Russell Crowe in LA Confidential; Matt Damon in the Bourne movies;

Classic alpha males? Humphrey Bogart; Gregory Peck; Paul Newman; Clint Eastwood (although he reminds me a bit too much of my Dad for me to find him attractive)

Alpha females? Definitely Sigourney Weaver; Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld movies; Milla Jovovich. Once again, I am not attracted to these characters, but I love to see a strong woman kick butt

Great topics!!

Lori M.

6:53 PM  
Blogger dorothy_inoz said...

Turned off by bald men? Good Lord NO!!!!! Need we mention Lex from Smallville, just to name one. I am a military wife of 16 years and I see bald men and semi-bald men all the time and oh baby! Convince your editor, that bald is sexy. There is something truly erotic about all of the skin. My husband went completely shaved just recently while deployed and I am mad at him because I missed it. Bald is good, bald is sexy!

Tricia

4:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My favorite alphas:

Books:
Wolf McKenzie and all his sons.
Dusty Fog by J. T. Edson - He falls into that category of natural leader
Simon by Stephanie Laurens
Tobias by Jayne
Any of the Donovans (and their in-laws)

Movies & TV:
Dean Cain
Pierce Brosnan
L. Jethro Gibbs (Mark Harmon) NCIS (anyone who can say {and make you believe it} "the only reason you are still walking around is because I only learned about your existance today" in defense of a friend is an alpha)

As for bald: My very own alpha shaves his head at least once a year and it diminishes nothing.
[seventeen years and counting]

Marva

seasa: search each alpha's soul anyway.

7:19 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Hey Marva, I've never watched NCIS, but it sounds great. Is it out on DVD? That's about the only way I watch series on tv. Otherwise it's too difficult for me to keep up week to week.

Dorothy, I've never watched Smallville either. LOL. I'm way behind, huh? The series I've rented to watch (and love) are The Sopranos, Deadwood, 24.
I've also rented (and like okay) Nip Tuck, Carnivale, Alias, and hmmm... a few others that I can't think of right now.
I tend to do a big glom of tv after I finish a single title book. I guess the switch in medium helps to unwind my brain or something. LOL

Lori M.! It's good to see you here. I blog every other Friday, so I hope you'll be back. HOW could I have forgotten Matt Damon in the Bourne movies. I *LOVE* them. Totally awesome. Thanks for the reminder.

Have a good weekend everyone!
Hugs,

LORI

1:25 AM  
Anonymous Lori of Canada said...

Lori,

I am hoping to!!

No problem - I love the Bourne movies too. ;-)

Smallville, BTW, is available on DVD (at least the first four seasons). I like it (it is a teenage Clark Kent, but I like the stories and it helps to remind myself that Tom Welling was 24 when he plays Clark in the first season. I don't feel so bad about thinking how cute he is when I remember that)

Lori M.

7:51 AM  
Blogger Melody said...

I just finished re-reading the release of the Medieval Series, and I was wondering if you were ever going to write a book on Erik and Serena?

11:05 AM  
Blogger Chris ^_^ said...

Well....I believe I have forgotten what I was going to say when I started setting up this blog thing. Is that permanent? oh dear....I just wanted to say something about something that ya'll said about....ummmm. Oh! I remember.

***If I can't stand the main characters the book hits the wall...I figure if I wouldn't spend time with them in the flesh then why waste time with them in print.

If it's based on adultery, I don't read it. Don't like it & I never can get close to the characters.

If it's because the print is small but I like what the back says still then I'll set it aside until another time & maybe later my interest will overcome the <10pica.

****Next...I am not a peeker but I will read the back cover summary several times to make sure where the book is heading. Once I reach that point I can just enjoy the book. It's kind of like a road map to make sure I am on the right bus.

****I don't mind books with or without sex...I just like the book's characters to do what they are gonna do. Annoys me when someone throws in a scene for no purpose, even the characters are like actors in a porn vid (bored & wondering why they are there). Kind of like a guy grabbing your boob, honking it & thinking "the mood" has been set. Yeah the mood to grab a 2x4 & beat him with it.

Adore true Alpha males...control of themselves definitely a key.

Okay I have babbled my answers & now relieve you by leaving to go to bed. I have enjoyed your blogs & your books......THANK YOU!

11:08 PM  
Blogger Chris ^_^ said...

oops forgot about the bald man question...the right man can be very attractive...Ed Harris?

I too grew up with military men & tend to be more aware of the closely shorn. yummmmm.

That's how I ended up marrying an Army ranger...made me overlook a couple of negatives. ahhh well, better luck next time. (GRIN)

Now I am going to bed...promise ^_^

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With regard to Jay's comment: Monty Roberts' autobiography appears to be mostly fiction. See http://HorseWhispersandlies.com. See also the Feb. 1999 issue of Horse & Rider magazine's article, 'Horse Whispers or Horse Feathers?'; San Francisco Examiner Article: 'BIOGRAPHY CALLED UNBRIDLED FICTION' January 11, 1997; "Horse of a Different Color" by John Skow & James Willwerth, Time Magazine Dec. 14, 1998; "Now! Read the True (More or Less) Story!" Tuesday, February 24, 1998 The New York Times; and "A Peddler of Court Gossip May Pay the Piper" by Jonathon Turley.

1:56 PM  

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