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Friday, June 02, 2006

A writer's family life...

I've found that readers are curious over how a writer's life might vary from theirs. I thought it'd be fun to do a few blogs on just that. And because I'm such a family person, I wanted to start with...

Writers and their families.

Now understand, most of my comments aren't about the dh (dear husband) or my sons.
I have three sons, by the way. They're now 19, 21, and 25. And I'm a grandma. Of a grandson. Yeah, the male gene is strong in my family. Maybe that's why I often write from the male pov...
Anyway, the husband and sons are super supportive, encouraging and proud.

This is more about my whacky extended family.

How many times have I written something – a scene straight out of the family history – and a reader or reviewer will state (with utter conviction) that it could never happen that way.
No one would put up with that. (She hasn’t met me, apparently.)
No family could be so dysfunctional.

Seriously, has she ever talked to anyone!? All families are dysfunctional in some ways.
There’s always a crazy aunt or uncle tucked away, or an odd niece or nephew that no one mentions aloud.
It doesn’t bother me so much any more because it gives me more fodder for my stories.

My grandma used to say that if families were laundry hung out to dry and it started to rain, everyone would pull in their own laundry. I suppose in the hills that means we like our own familiar problems.
We’ve learned to deal with them.
To accept them.

It’s everyone else’s problems that seem so weird to us.

Maybe that’s what some reviewers or readers are missing when they criticize an unlikely character or plot point. That their problems - aka life experiences – aren’t the same as mine. They aren’t the same as yours. They aren’t the same as anyone’s, because we’re all unique.

Now, talking about unique...

Here are some awesome comments or observations from my own darling family members.

My mother, without ever reading a single one of my books, was fond of saying, “Some day you’re going to get raped on your doorstep.”
She never elaborated beyond that, and I never asked, and now she’s gone, so I guess I’ll never know what thought processes brought her to that prediction.

My stepfather (who raised me and is my “Dad”) wanted me to give up this nonsense of writing and try selling Mary Kay cosmetics instead. It really was a compliment from him, since he considered me well practiced enough in the make-up department to make a living at it.
Note: I should add that these days he’s all about me being a writer. At 82, he’s obsessed with trying to discover how much money I make, instead of convincing me to quit.

My real father, who I didn’t know until I was 18, wondered why I didn’t just get a ghost-writer to do some of my books so I could have more free time.
Hmmm. Do you think readers would notice if someone else wrote for me?
This is the same guy who insists he could write better love scenes, based on his personal experiences. (Isn’t that gross?)
And he also thinks I got published because (in his opinion, not mine) I’m cute.
Now seriously, isn’t that the main criteria that all publishers consider when buying a book?

One of my aunts usually wants to know when I’ll be on Oprah. She doesn’t understand why I don’t just "do it." Just go on the show and talk about my books. It’d be great promo, after all.
Anyone got Oprah's number?

My other aunt wants to know if I’ll ever write a novel.
Yeah, that’s exactly what she said.
I don’t know what it is I’ve been writing, but apparently, to her, they aren’t novels. Maybe she thinks they’re comic books.
Who knows?

My sis, who I love dearly, keeps telling people that I’m #1 on the New York Times.
God love her, she doesn’t understand that there is a HUGE difference between dangling loosely on to the lower end of the list, which is where I’ve been, and landing solidly in a key position. To her, it’s all the same old, same old.
But oh, to be in such a position! Don't I wish.

My other sister has made it clear that she’s not interested in hearing anything about my writing.
So I don’t mention it, and neither does she.

My brother listens with half an ear, and then often launches into a joke totally unrelated to anything I was saying. He’s a real comedian.

A brother-in-law and his wife, when told by my sister-in-law that I’d made that oh-so-exciting tail end of the NY Times, turned their backs without a single word and walked away.
Yeah, it was meant as a snub, and embarrassed my poor sister-in-law a lot.
Me, I’m used to that from them.

I hope I don’t sound bitter because I’m really not.
Not all of my relatives are insensitive or obtuse. This whole writing gig is a very strange thing to most people. Without saying it aloud, most of my family considers me the odd one, the niece (or aunt or sister or daughter) that no one talks about.
To them, I'm what makes our family dysfunctional.
You gotta love that!

Now, when the whole writing thing is mentioned, it's usually with a question.

The question I get asked most often is, “Where do you get your ideas.”

Which must mean that not everyone has a ton of stories in their heads, kicking around and demanding life.
I wonder how anyone sees the fighter with the swollen cauliflower ears, the crooked nose and the sparkling flash of determination in his eyes, and doesn’t rewrite him as a romantic figure.

Who could possibly have watched “Kiss the Girls” without imagining an Alpha boyfriend at odds with Morgan Freeman as he sets out to save the heroine?

Is it possible for someone to see a man carrying a child on his shoulders, or a woman struggling with her Great Dane, or a couple whispering close together, without plotting out a story to showcase that particular scene?

My family certainly doesn’t. I’m not sure they’d even notice any of those brief glimpses into a plot.

They see mundane; I see the kernel of an idea.

They see ten or twenty seconds of time; I spin it into a four hundred-page story.

For some of the more repetitious questions that family asks, I've come up with pat answers.
Here we go.

Family: “I’d write a book if I had the time.”
My reply: “I’m a slug with tons of idle time on my hands. I’ve got nothing better to do.”

Family: “Are you going to make your book into a movie?”
My reply: “I already have and it’s out tomorrow. Wanna buy an advance ticket?”

Family: “Where do you get your ideas?”
My reply: “If I told you, I’d have to kill you.”
Or
My reply: “It’s a secret, but I’ll sell you one idea for a hundred bucks.”
Or
My reply: “Well, you see, I have this magic eight-ball...”
Or (my personal favorite)
My reply: “It came to me in a dream.”

Family: (in a whisper) “Have you ever actually done (this, or that, or any of those things) that you have in your book?”
My reply: a roll of my eyes and I walk away.

Seriously, do they think I was once married to a preacher, and a gynecologist, and a vet, and detective and... all of my other heroes?
Do they believe I drove my car off a pier, or got attacked by a lunatic?
Maybe they've forgotten when I used to be a prostitute? Or that art gallery I owned ?
Maybe I forgot to tell them when I was in college to become a nurse, or when I taught school.
Sheesh.

Family support (from my extended family) is an elusive thing.
But my husband is my biggest fan. Every aspect of the business fascinates him. He believes in me, and is never surprised by any new success.
My sons are the same. They’re forever carrying my books to any new females they meet – coworkers, instructors, friends, etc...

To be a writer, you have to have a thick skin. This is not a business for sissies. Trust me on this. As dysfunctional as my extended family usually seems, I learned to deal with them long ago.
Publishing isn’t any different.

But I do give them key spots in my books on a regular basis. So the next time you read a character that you think is too over the top, a scene you can’t believe played out quite that way, or a plot point that is too far fetched, stop and wonder if the writer is channeling an experience with a beloved relative.
In the case of my books, it’s nearly guaranteed.

In the writing community, it’s common knowledge that we don’t get support from family, but rather from our peers.
So support me, already – by sharing your own experiences.

If you’re a writer, how does your family, extended or otherwise, react to your profession? (And even if you aren’t yet published, it’s still a profession.)

If you’re not a writer but you are a reader, what does your family think of it?
Are they tolerant of the time you spend with your nose in a book?
Do they consider you too fanciful, or try to insist that you read something more literary than a romance novel? (That one really burns me up!)

What reactions in general have you gotten from friends or family concerning romance novels – the writing and reading of them?

While you're thinking of those replies, know this: To my family, I'm the odd one, that strange relative they whisper about, the nutty "always has her head in the clouds" daydreamer that no one can understand.
I'm the writer.
You gotta love it!

Hugs!

Lori

58 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I´m not a writer but definetly a Reader with a capital "R". I grew up with my nose in a book, would even keep it beside me during meals and got away with it. Now I don´t (usually) take my meals with a book (unless I´m all alone), but I still love reading and nobody thinks anything of it but a good thing.

5:59 AM  
Blogger Stella said...

Lori: Your mother's comment takes the prize. I didn't know her so may I be forgiven for commenting that I'm glad I'm not sure of the sick thought that spawned that one.

Jerry has not idea how anyone writes a book and is impressed by the discipline and talent it takes. Yup, I said talent, and I'm not embarrassed. It's the only talent I seem to have.

Our son likes having a mother who writes novels--he even squelches comments at his book group--where the only genre they read is literary.

One daughter is also delighted by what I do. The other daughter is embarrassed by her mother's work.

My father didn't think "scribbling" was a suitable occupation for a woman and never read one of my books.

That's enough about that from me.

Everyone who knows you considers it a blessing--even if your energy does wear more than a few of us out. Your work entertains hoards of people and makes their lives brighter. I'd say you've got a lot to be proud of.

And it's nice up here in the clouds:)

Cheers, Stella

6:07 AM  
Anonymous JenniferMonteith said...

Excellent Blog! Thanks for the insight and encouragement. I am that eccentric aunt, sister, daughter who shocked the family by walking away from a lucrative consulting practice to focus on writing futuristic scifi romance. I pointed out to my sister and Mom with whom I've been swapping romance/mystery books by the "Quills" and others for decades that a number of those very authors write in my favortie genre! Sis and Mom have found they enjoy them too (still working on my brother to read one..one day :-)).

6:27 AM  
Blogger Cbell said...

Lori: first I have to tell you that I did indeed take "Joe" with me on vacation last week and fell in love! Finished the book in record time and ran to the closest bookstore and jumped up and down when the rest of the Winstons were there! Your talent is, indeed, exceptional.

I love to write as well, but I fear the idea of completely making up my own story... I don't know why. I am more of a storyteller, to the chagrin of my family, as most of my stories are about them. My mother in particular, and how she recently intended to save herself in the event of a terrorist attack with six bottles of water! The fact that the rest of our family was left on our own only solidified the humor!

I swear my retired father should work for the FBI, because he is so bored now that he simply has become the biggest gossipmonger in our little community. He has a network of other older friends and to hear him repeat over and over the same story (and hear that story develop as it ages) is priceless.

I rarely think a storyline or character is out of the realm of possibility... more often than not, I can relate to it! (I still get a chuckle out of the family dynamics of Jayne's "All Night Long") But, it is that diversity and creativity (with a touch of the obscure) that takes a good story and turns it into a great one!

6:52 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Wow. I was up late (late for me) then up early (even for me, when my regular time is 4:30 am) so I posted my blog with no cute photos or smilies, and went back to bed. LOL.
It's raining cats and dogs here, and that's perfect napping weather.
Then I get up and here are several comments already! Thank you for the input everyone.
Stella, my mom had a hard upbringing, so I can sort of understand where she came from... sometimes. That particular comment I never understood and didn't want to. So I didn't ask her to explain it.
Isn't it nice to know what we do is a talent? I was a very odd duck in school. Always daydreaming. Very introverted, mostly because school was not the best environment for a creative sort. I talk at the schools now a lot, encouraging all those kids who are daydreamers, who have a hard time sitting still and absorbing facts read off to them.
Anyone who struggles with math especially has my sympathy. The closest I come to knowing math is remembering phone numbers. LOL.

Anonymous, I'm so glad that no one discouraged your reading. As long as we're not neglecting our loved ones, I think reading is the very best form of entertainment and education available. Go you!

Jennifer, do you have any idea how many writers were once lawyers? I kid you not. I meet them all the time. I'm not sure what it is with the transition, but it seems one out of every ten writers used to study or practice law. You have to go with your heart, even if you mind first led you astray. ;-)

Cbell, bless you, woman! I'm just thrilled that you enjoyed Joe's story. Thank you, thank you!
LOVE the story of your mom with her water bottles.
I have a whole room filled with my stash of survival goods. But I covered provisions for everyone, including my doggies. ;-)
As to gossip... that's one thing about writers. We seldom can make up or remember gossip, because our heads are already so full of our made up stories that they're falling out of our ears. There's no room for more.
I haven't read Jayne's All Night Long yet, but I want to. Her knack for creating true-to-life families is one of the things that first drew me to her books.

Maybe because of my upbringing I can believe a stranger will step in and love a child more than a natural parent would.
And I can believe that a person who seems very unworthy of love will receive unconditional love by those who have blood ties.
I can see the possibilities in so many things. I see forgiveness and understanding, just as I sometimes see no reason to forgive.
Most of what I write is wrapped about family joys and hurts.
Weaving it all into a story is what, for many, keeps us sane.
Or insane.
I'm never quite sure which it is that makes life so fun. Whatever it is, I'll take it!
HUGS!

7:19 AM  
Anonymous Julie Rowe said...

After reading a manuscript I wrote my mother said to me, "Julie, I can't believe what you wrote on page 189. How could you possibly do that and talk about it out loud?"

Everyone else seems to like being related to a writer (I guess I make a good conversation piece), but none of them read anything I write.

7:45 AM  
Blogger Kelley said...

Well, I'm an aspiring writer. I am working on my first MS, have just finished a short story, and write poetry. Even though I am pre-published (hehe) I feel as though I am a writer. Just not a published one! I find that many people dont understand that. Because of the fact that I'm not published they dont understand how important it is to me. That it is my passion and my dream. That I am determined to make it one day, even if it is 10 years from now. That no matter what I will never stop writing because it is a part of who I am, a very important part. I just dont think people who dont write can understand that. To them I am just fooling around, doing something to take up my spare time. I write on my blog a lot. Out of all the friends that I have had for years and years, one person stops by and reads what I write or what I have to say. Besides that, it is all people I have met on the internet. People who write themselves or people who are avid readers. It bothers me sometimes that my friends dont support my dream. Then, I realize they just dont understand it. They dont realize how important it is to me and how good it makes me feel when they are eager to read what I have written. I cant be angry at them for not understanding. I just have to be thankful for the wonderful people I have met that support what I do. Not only that, but I write for myself. I write because it is what I really love not because it is what my friends truly love.
Sorry, I babbled on and on with this one!

8:00 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Julie, you made me laugh! Too funny. Moms are a kick, aren't they?

Kelley, don't look for support from your close "non writing" friends, or from your family. That was sort of the point of my rambling blog. The internet has caused a lot of problems, but one big plus is that we can relate with others like us. Such a blessing.

I've heard some writers complain because their husbands won't read what they write. But honestly, I don't expect my husband to. I wouldn't want to read the stuff that interests him. But he does support me in so many other ways that what diff does it make if he reads my books or not?
Your friends obviously care about you, or they wouldn't be your friends, right?
They're probably just not readers. We can't be all things to all people.
I hope that makes sense.
BTW, what you said is so true - I write for me, too. If I never published another book, I'd still be writing them because it's part of who and what I am. Not the biggest part, but an important part all the same.

Hugs to you!

8:15 AM  
Blogger Suzanne Simmons said...

I loved your blog, Lori! Thank you for sharing your family stories with us.

I can still remember my grandmother saying to me: "Suzy, you were such a sweet little girl, how can you write 'that'?" She meant sex, of course, but couldn't bring herself to say the word. My reply: "Don't worry, Grandma, I made it all up." (And I'd laugh. I was married and had a young child, after all.)

The most poignant part of my journey as a writer. My dad was my biggest supporter in the early years and he died six months before I sold my first book. But I am very fortunate that my husband and family totally support my writing and always have.

8:21 AM  
Blogger Kelley said...

I wanted to add that my hubby supports me like yours does. He brags about me and reads what I am working on even though romance is not his thing! I feel blessed for that.

8:31 AM  
Blogger Kelley said...

Lori, I think we were typing at the same time and I didnt see your response to my comment. My hubby reads what I write now, but he hasnt read the entire MS I am working on. Just bits ane pieces. He likes to hear what I write but I highly doubt he would ever sit and read the entire book. I agree with you, I dont expect him to either. I know that he just isnt a reader. I do love the fact that he wants to read me shorter pieces.
I've learned not to worry about support from my friends, just like you said. I was bothered my it in the beginning, but like I said, I cant get mad at them for something they dont understand. I love all the new friends I have met because they are in the same place I am. Lovers of words, writing or reading. I feel blessed to have them.

8:36 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Ah, Suzanne, I'm so sorry that he didn't get to see your first book published. So very sad. But I'm sure in his heart he had no doubt it'd happen. That's the way my husband always was. He knew I'd sell eventually, even when I didn't.

Kelley, yep, we were probably typing the same time. LOL.
You know, I have different friends. I have the sports friends, who sat in the bleechers with me for hours when our sons wrestled.
I have friends who are writers. Friends who are readers.
Friends who are neighbors.
I have relatives who are also friends - I like to hang out with them, shop or just visit.
And with each group, our conversations, jokes, and manners are different.

The publishing biz is sort of complex. There are many things I don't understand and never will - so why would I expect folks NOT in the biz to grasp it all? I don't.

My friends who have artistic friends can't understand why I enjoyed watching my sons wrestle, especially when they got hurt so often. LOL.

Different strokes and all that.
It does keep things interesting!

Me

8:54 AM  
Blogger K.L. said...

I am a reader. I can understand the passion behind writers NEEDING to write (and artists needing to create, etc...) but I don't have any desire to do that. I do need to read. I faithfully follow about a dozen writers, and dabble in others. I am simply grateful that there are people out there who need to write as much as I need to read. Luckily my parents gave me the room to read all I wanted. My DH reads as do two of my three kids. The third actually can't understand it and gives me the most grief about it. He interupts and pesters me until I sometimes have to leave the room to get any peace and quiet. Or maybe he just likes pushing my buttons. God knows he knows them all!

Lori, you are so right about every family being disfunctional. I have a large extended family and their antics just keep me rolling with laughter sometimes. That is when I am not cringing.

So you go ahead and keep up your writing, and I'll just sit back and keep on reading. If this is an addiction, who is supplying whom?

9:11 AM  
Blogger BUGG said...

Lori,
My family is beyond disfunctional. And I'm afraid to admit it, but some of them are proud of it. LOL
My oldest brother has written several "horror" novels. He's never been published, and honestly hasn't giving himself the credit he deserves. He has a TALENT, and writing is a talent few people posess.
I'm a reader, by defalt..."people laugh at my writing skills". However, I LOVE being a reader. I can blow through a 400 page book in a day and I'm proud of it. If I had to sit and stare at the same story for 9 months (like authors do) I would loose my mind.
Lori, your moms comment scares me a little, but in a funny way. I have an excentric grandma who once offered to babysit my child for me. However, she offered by saying "I have a spare room, I can lock her in there while you're gone."
Most people would think she was joking. Ummm she wasn't! We (my siblings and I) still laugh our heads off about her comment. It's normal for us! She is just grandma. This same grandma had a little boy "run into her car with his bike." LOL, those were her words not mine! Poor little boy, he just didn't see her coming. She still shows people the small dent he made in the car. I've tried to explain to her that SHE HIT THE KID, he didn't run into her. But it just won't sink in.

Family, you have got to love them or you'll loose it!
Charity

9:22 AM  
Blogger nellsquirrel said...

I'm definitely in the reader category. Luckily, my family has the same trend. :-) Not to my degree but enough that I'm not too odd. LOL!

As for "dysfunctional" - my extended family is quite... uhm... odd... When someone asks if my maiden name was "A...." I ALWAYS ask "WHY do you ask???" *snork*

11:49 AM  
Blogger Shiloh Walker said...

What is it about this question....

"Where do you get your ideas?" I've been asked that so many times.

And I've also been asked the one where have I ever really done the things I write about? Sure, I have sex with vampires all the time, and just last week I was murdered. ;o)

My family is okay with my writing. My grandma loves romance, but most of mine is too hot for her. The one or two she has read, she enjoyed. My mom is very proud of me, although she wants me to write more contemporaries... she actually read a couple of mine even after I tried to tell her not to. sigh...

Three brothers, two tease me about it, but they've always teased me. one is really proud and supportive.

Don't talk with my dad much but he is pretty proud of me~hasn't ever read any of it, but since he knows writing is all i wanted to do when i was a kid, he's happy for me.

In laws are just satisfied we're doing well in life.

There is an aunt out there who is rather disbelieving that I actually make a living writing.

Most of the more bizarre reactions come from casual friends or acquaintances. I get asked how much I make, have I ever gotten anything published, have i finished the book up, as if there was only one, and one comment that comes up a lot...

well, since you aren't working, i bet you get to spend more time with the kids

I forgot. This isn't a job... the books write themselves so I can take the kids to the zoo every day. THEN when i try to explain I still send the kids to their sitters four days a week, people can't understand why.

Writing is a job~takes my time, takes my concentration, just like my old job did. I think that's the thing that irritates me the most. when i get THAT question...

11:51 AM  
Blogger DFender said...

Ha! Lori you are such a riot. Your blog was insightful and funny... even some of the things your relatives have said are so ridiculous I just laughed harder.

I'm a reader... my dh and son are both readers too. The girlie-child just doesn't "get it". Ah, well, 3 outta 4 isn't bad...lol. My Mom loves to read, she set a good example, I think. My family reads everything, fiction, non-fiction, from fantasy to history. No one seems to mind when one (or all!) of us is/are reading. We seem to make time for it since it's important to us for our sanity...lol. Escapism at its best...even when there's nothing horrible to escape from.

I'm happily adopted and your stories seem to touch a special place for me. My family? We're not too dysfunctional... just sorta... lol.

Thanks, Lori... Your (as my son would say) Da Bomb!

Deb

awsxzdgo: Always wryly, silently (e)xamined zebras determining greatness - outlandishly.

12:14 PM  
Blogger KathyK said...

I admire people who can create a world and people it with believable characters. But I'm more of an editor than a writer. I LOVE to read. The problem is that none of my favorites authors (most of whom are Quills) can write fast enough to keep my habit satisfied. But the favorites are usually worth re-reading, so I manage to limp along until a new one comes out. I'm waiting very impatiently for EL's new one due in 11 days. BN is going to call me when it arrives and they are allowed to sell it, because otherwise I'd make their lives miserable pacing in front of the desk.

12:23 PM  
Blogger Marianne Arkins said...

My husband asked me to write under a pseudonym because his family would be horrified. And they would be.

They are ultra, Ultra, ULTRA conservatives (only read Christian fiction, listen to only classical music, never, ever watch anything over PG, etc.) and would be certain I was going to go to that hot place because my characters occasionally indulge in *ahem* pre-marital sex.

So I have to hide all my "how to write" books, and can't display any of my contest finalist certif's where they can be seen.

Very frustrating. Some day I'm just going to stand on a mountain and scream "I WRITE ROMANCES!!!!" and let the chips fall...

1:39 PM  
Blogger lacey kaye said...

Powerful blog. I totally get this...and you're right, the internet does make it hurt less. But I accept their disinterest and move on. Like someone else said, I don't want to make a deposit in the relationship bank and end up spending a perfectly good Sunday afternoon watching racing! Ha.

4:28 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

Oh, Lori, that was YOU? You might consider signing your blogs, for those of us less familiar with you...

When asked where he got his ideas, Robert Bloch (PSYCHO) used to explain that there was a magazine called IDEAS, to which only professional writers were allowed to subscribe. Harlan Ellison simply replied, "Schenectady."

My family never encouraged me to think my writing was any good. Their typical reaction when I wanted to show them something I wrote was, "Well, I'll read it if you want me to," with the implication that it wasn't worth reading in and of itself.

I never had a teacher who encouraged me, either, partly because I moved so often, and partly because I was an annoying kid.

The main encouragement I got was from my friend Ed, who published my stuff in his fanzine, from readers of said fanzine who responded favorably, and from Andre Norton, who bought my first published short story.

qkdki -- Quick/Krentz does kitten interventions.

4:39 PM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Ha! Tal, yeah, I shoulda signed that puppy, huh? I thought I put my cute quill siggy thing in, but I guess it didn't take. Hmmm...
Sorry about that.

Oh, I'm so glad that all of you "got me." I was afraid I sounded snarky or hurt or defensive, when I'm none of those things. I'm about the happiest person going. I feel so blessed in so many ways that it's sometimes scary.
And yeah, I'm a crazy writer with a very weird family, and the older I get, the more I realize that everyone has someone weird in their family. I just happen to have several. ;-)
My husband and I often wonder if we're actually aliens, because we're so different from our families that it's hard to imagine a blood tie.
Then again, maybe it's that we're so odd...
See, it's sometimes really tough to tell.

Marianne, I'm so sorry that your in-laws will never get to acknowledge your talent! That's very sad. But we all need to live this life the best way we know how. If their way works for them, more power to them. If they're happy, even better.
Just don't forget to live YOUR life the best you can, too, okay?

Shiloh, speaking of questions... I have people ask me all the time, "Are you still writing?"

I'd love to say, "Nah. It was too lucrative. Too fun. I decided to give it up."

Why do they think I'd quit??? I never get that question, no matter how many times it's asked.

And I totally get you on the "not working" deal. We're home, therefore we can't really be doing much, right?
When my mother was dying with cancer (a very bad time) everyone - siblings, aunts, cousins - said that I was at home, so I could care for her 24/7. And I did. That's the role I fill - caregiver. I do what the others won't for reasons that amount to lame excuses, at least in my mind.
I always try to do what I can to please me. I don't want to feel guilt or regret, not if I can help it.
I like me too much to make me feel guilty. LOL.
My husband is always a huge help too. When the siblings weren't there, he was.
He's my other half, in more ways than I can say.
THe kids too.

Man, this is getting long. I should get my shower and get my very tired tush to bed.

Thank you everyone for your input and your insight. Ain't life, and all its little quirks, grand!?
HUGS,

Lori

5:43 PM  
Blogger Bethany said...

It always comes down to "going on Oprah" doesn't it? I just found an agent and am this close to submitting... and it never fails (ever) when I share this bit of news with someone. I get this:

"When are you going to be on Oprah?"

Seriously. It is scary and saddening that Oprah and books have become some sort of parallel (and don't get me wrong, I like Oprah).

Anyway, I feel your pain Lori. You either get the snicker, the look of awe, or ignorance on the entire process. But hey, we weird ones stick together, right? :-)

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Wendy said...

I am a reader, big time reader, as in leave the housework go, don't go to bed with out reading, never leave the house without a book, just in case, and when I was packing to move, the last things packed were my book shelves. I frequently wish I could write and have given it a shot a couple of times, but the scenes that I see in my head or the ideas always come out stilted on the paper. So, I have decided to just go with it - read a lot - a really lot, and thank God every day that there are people out there that are talented and dedicated enough to write the books for me to read.

8:38 PM  
Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

Great blog, Lori! One we can all identify with -- readers and writers alike.

--Jayne

9:25 PM  
Anonymous Beth W. said...

I'm a reader. Since I live alone, there's no one around to bug me about how much time I spend with my nose in a book (though sometimes I think my cat gets a little jealous). When I still lived with my parents and started reading romance, my mom was a little disappointed, since she was an English major and was more into poetry and the like. But when she bought me a romance as a stocking stuffer for Christmas one year, I knew she accepted my reading habits.

My aunt reads a little bit of romance, but not a lot. The funniest thing she said to me about my reading was once when I was going on a blind date: "I hope you're not disappointed, you know most men aren't really like the guys in those books you read."

I've gotten some grief from some of my co-workers, but I usually shrug it off. I did get a little angry at my one co-worker who said, "Oh, I don't read romance novels, they're all just so poorly written." Funny how she knows they're ALL poorly written when she can't even tell me when the last time she read one was. I'm still hoping I can convince her to actually *read* a romance one of these days, but no luck so far.

9:53 PM  
Anonymous AgTigress said...

'Going on Oprah': it is very strange the way that so many people, including quite intelligent ones, seem to equate appearing on television with success and fame.

Each profession has its own ways of measuring and marking success and reputation, many of which will be unknown to people outside the profession, but appearing on TV seems to impress nearly everyone. Yet, unless one is actually a TV presenter or actor, it has almost nothing to do with one's competence in a chosen field of endeavour.

Every time I have done some minor little TV interview, some acquaintance or relative will see it, and will 'congratulate' me on the great achievement of appearing on the box, as if this were the glittering summit of the professional recognition I have been labouring for all my adult life! I know their eyes would glaze over immediately if I told them about my real achievements, those of which I actually feel proud myself.

:-)

3:47 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

agtigress:
You know, I discovered long ago that the most important person I had to please was me. If I'm happy, I make everyone else happier. Hubby says that our family unit revolves around me. Wow, so much responsibility! LOL. So I do what I do for me. Period. I don't worry about Oprah. (Such an odd way to measure success!)
I don't enter contests - especially the RITA. I spent enough years as an unpub dealing with rejection, that I see no point in paying to be rejected.
And I couldn't give a fig what a negative review says. I read them, out of curiosity, but they don't hurt me in any way.
When I write a book, I make it the very best book I can *FOR ME.* If I love it, then that's what matters most.
It works for me.
Someday I'd love to hear your real achievments. Please always feel free to share, and I promise not to glaze over. :-D

Lori

4:00 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Beth, your mom sounds like a very smart cookie. Kudos to her!

As to your aunt... next time you see her, tell her I said she's wrong. The men I know are exactly like the men I write in my books. Most of them are based in some way on my husband - not physically, because like me, Allen has aged in time and raising 3 kids has taken its toll. ;-)
But the honor, the generosity, the humor, and the amount of love for anyone and everyone who needs it... that's him. He's a really terrific guy.

I know when I wrote "CASEY" someone asked me if that was my son, Aaron. In some ways, it was. (he was a son in a book long before he got his own story)Casey knew of someone who was hurt and needed her grass cut, so he did it, and refused pay.
My boys do stuff like that all the time. I've tried to teach them about good karma, about being lucky in where they were born, and the circumstances in which they were born - basically that they're loved more than anything, protected, have what they need and more - and that's something not to take for granted. It's something you have to share with those less fortunate.
And so they do.
They're defenders of the underdog.
They're generous with their time and attention.
They're protective and honorable and they love all children.

Oh, and they have their dad's sense of humor. I live among comedians! LOL
Yup, I'm a proud mom.

I do my utmost to write about real men. It just saddens me that so few people know men as I do.

I honestly think part of that is this societal thing we have going on, where women trash men non-stop for being men, instead of women.
Hello! There IS a difference - thank heavens. ;-)
You know, that's another blog. I think I'll save it. LOL.
HUGS!

Lori

4:05 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Bethany -
WHOO HOO! Let us know how it goes, okay? I hope things work out for you. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you have some good luck to go with the talent. Trust me, it's a necessity in this biz. Lots of deals were made through good luck.

You know, the way my mind works is that I've rewritten Oprah many times as an evil entity ready to take over the world. With so many people playing as sheep, blindly subscribing to those things that "The Almighty Oprah" deems necessary and good, it probably wouldn't take her long.
She could slip in some subliminal messages, lead a few people off the righteous path, and bam! We'd all be living in an "Oprah World."
See. Scary stuff, huh?
It astounds me that if Oprah says it, it must be true. Pshaw.

Nothing against Oprah, though. ;-)
She's an amazingly talented woman who has wrapped entire societies around her little finger with a winsome smile and a show of understanding. Go Oprah.

Wendy, there are many, many times when the scene in my head comes out entirely different on paper. Most times in fact. Brain thoughts, and written thoughts are, I've decided, two very different things. LOL.
I try not to fight it too much. As long as the overall feel is there, I just go with it and keep writing.

Thank you for being a reader. As my first blog said, without readers, we writers would be a hopeless, desolate lot. ;-D

Lori

4:12 AM  
Blogger susanna in alabama said...

Lori, I love your work, and I appreciate your sharing insights about your life and family. Like so many others here, I can relate. I come from a family where most everyone stayed within 50 miles of where they grew up, and do jobs very similar to what their parents did. I've moved a lot, been a reporter and a secretary and a grant writer and a professional house cleaner, all the while working on some degree or another and writing writing writing in hopes of publishing some day. A lot of my extended family don't know I write fiction, it's not something I talk about much. My area is more romantic suspense, with emphasis on suspense (but I have to have the romance in there too), so I've done things that make my family shake their heads - like attending an autopsy, going ride-along with cops, riding the subway at odd hours taking notes about who was there and what was going on so my story would have the right feel. Nearly every setting I'm in, I consider how a murder could happen there. I'll go the long, isolated way home from visiting friends so I can stop by the road with my headlights off and think about how my heroine would feel if her car died just there. I love my life, but it's decidedly weird to the people I love.

As for my reading, I always have 2-3 books going at a time including an audio book in my car. I feel edgy if I don't have a book with me. My taste in books is too intense, with either violence or sex or both, for the rest of my family, so I don't talk about that much either. My mother never read my rather dry master's thesis on a typology of mass murderers, and I know she would not read a mystery I've written. None of my family would. But they love me and I'm blessed to have them.

And I'm very glad that you have a wonderful husband and sons. They are blessed to have you. :) You are a very talented woman, and as one of your dedicated readers, I thank you for keeping the faith and pushing on so we readers can enjoy the fruits of your labor.

2:36 PM  
Blogger beadlizard said...

Lori, I read to my 13yo dd what you wrote about glimpses into a plot. She sees that way and has a glorious imagination and amazing word skills. It's important at her age to realize that there are a lot of wonderful people out there who are similar to her, since she definitely doesn't blend in at school.

When I was on bed rest with cancer (doing okay now) for a few years I read thousands of romances. At first my rather serious, intellectual family made comments ("What *are* you reading?!"), but they saw how much the novels cheered me up and soon were giving me ones they'd picked up at the library sale rack or the swap shelf at work. My DH raised his eyebrows at some of the covers but his only comment was that if they made me laugh I should get more.

What has surprised all of us is how much I have learned (and not just hanky-panky). Yes, boy meets girl, they resolve a conflict, then go off into the sunset together. But the settings! The history! I've learned how to run a B&B, how to do a corporate take-over, how to fix a carriage wheel, and how to sense evil in another person.

And, I don't feel as if the last few years were lonely or wasted; you authors pulled me through a tough time. Thank you. --Sylvia

3:00 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

Lori, for a hint as to the Tigress's real achievements, check out the books your sister Quills Elizabeth and Jayne have dedicated to her. And to her spouse--although I believe THAT one involved gin....

I guess if you want to get on Oprah, you can't just make up good stories: you have to make up good stories AND SAY THEY ARE REAL. Of course, then Drudge or someone will investigate, and Oprah will denounce you, but think of the publicity!

I think that all romance writers whose nearest and dearest (?) insist on demeaning their chosen career should whip out a picture of Barbara Cartland in her latter days and say, "At least I don't dress like this! But I'm going to if you don't quit!"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/755000/images/_758113_cartland_with_dog150.jpg

Susanna, have you read the essays of William Roughhead? My own true-crime fascination is with domestic murder in an apparently normal family; and in addition to editing the Notable English and Scottish Trials series, he wrote wonderful essays about domestic murders, particularly Victorian ones. A lot of them could be done over in modern dress (in fact, Norah Lofts did a couple of them as fiction in one of her books). His essays are very atmospheric and wonderfully written. You can feel the shudder in your spine as you walk down a deserted Edinburgh wynd at night with Major Weir following close behind, or when Madeleine Smith reaches through the barred kitchen window with a nice cup of arsenic-flavored cocoa....

ezadw -- Elizabeth's zebra also does windows.

3:51 PM  
Blogger DebVA said...

This blog is SO hitting home...every comment about bewildered and bewildering families is true for me, too. My family is so puzzled by my life and career choices, it's like we live in differnt universes. I left home at 18 and never looked back. ("...and why wasn't I married with babies?" they'd ask.)

I spent 17 years working in broadcasting, and was never really able explain my job. How do you explain being a television news producer to someone who thinks working at Pennys would be a good career move? This is not a slam on my parents or their reality, just an example of our different viewpoints. When I left broadcasting for Washington DC and the Department of Defense...they thought I'd be getting a gun. God Bless them, they do understand that I'm trying to make a difference in my small way...even if they don't have a clue as to what it is I do for a living.

Ladies, your writing, be it in your books, or in this blog, lets me escape, gives me hope and joy and challenges my mind. It inspires me to want to struggle with plots and characters, too... even if I'm the only one who ever reads it. It's therapy...and cheaper that a shrink!

Keep it up...I promise to be here to read what you write! Deb

5:41 PM  
Blogger robin said...

Love the blog.

I'm an unpublished writer and I write with a friend. We've been doing this for years and years (and years) since junior high, really. Both sets of parents complained about pen. And paper. We have gone through tons of paper. Then, we moved to computer, and we still hear "When are you gonna published that and make some money?" Publish "that." As if its been one long story all this time.
I also get "what do you have to write about?" or "What makes you think you could write about that?" or "do you really hear all those people speaking to you in your head?" I know they don't understand it anymore than I can understand fixing computers, or singing on key.....but its still funny to hear the completely mystified way they ask questions. If I were a published writer, I think it would make their heads explode! :)

Love your books, and thanks for making such a great blog.

7:38 PM  
Blogger susanna in alabama said...

Oh, I forgot to add - a friend of mine who was getting a master's degree in English lit once asked me why I was wasting "a good mind" on reading romance novels. Heh. There's one in every romance reader/ writer's life, isn't there?

8:08 PM  
Blogger BadBarbs' Blog said...

Hey Lori, I just had to laugh at some of the stuff that was said to you.

I remember when I used to work at Long John Silvers, way before I became a reviewer I used to have a book with me all the time. It was always romance and I didn't get teased so much for reading them, but the titles I got a good ribbing for. I was a shift manager there and I always left my book on the desk.

I have had comments made about my choice of reading material, which sometimes is made by people who say they don't have time to read. :)

I love that each author brings their own stamp on his/her book. With Lori it is the confrontation scenes that almost always takes place in front of family/friends.
With Jayne it is always the way the hero and heroine believe in each other when others are telling them they shouldn't, with Stella it is her villains. I have always said Stella writes the best ones.

Romances are my drug of choice and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Barb

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

Yep, I get a lot of grief from family. Though there are readers, they are not really into romances. One sister-in-law had a Harlequin Romance Subscription. If you knew her, you'd know that she picked entirely the wrong genre. She could really get into the hot hot romances. But she gave up the Romances at least 15 years ago and I'm not sure she's read another one since. She knows I love romances. So she's given me several books: "Fatherhood" by Bill Cosby, one of Anne Rice's earlier Vampire books (I hate vampires) and a Sidney Sheldon omnibus--not exactly my line either. I exchanged the Rice and the others are around somewhere unread. Not that I'd mind reading them but I like so many others better.

I get constant grief about my book collection. "What are you keeping that stuff (if not, junk) for? Get rid of it." Sometimes in the last few years, I've had the feeling that after I finished high school, I never really belonged in my family. I'm older than my next sibling by more than the other 3 put together, and left for Europe after H.S. The others seem to know nothing about me and therefore have no empathy for me. I am single and have no pets. I'm just realizing how isolated I am especially since I keep having illnesses that the others just tell me to "Suck it up!" What do they know of my 40-odd years of doing that?

My father was a reader and his mother loved reading romances. Unfortunately, Lori, I'm like the people who just see the surface of things and can't for the life of me make up a story around an incident. My mother could and one of my most precious possessions is a book that she wrote and illustrated for me before I even went to school. She always had to help me think of things to write about for school--if it was creative. Essays and factual reports etc. were a breeze. Totally missed the creative gene. My father was an architect though his schooling was more in the engineering of architecture rather than in the design. He knew the nuts and bolts of architectures. I know the nuts and bolts of language(s).

I don't even have like-minded friends. That's why I natter on in my comments--the only place I can get out some of my feelings about what I like the most.

Sorry, hogging as usual. I hope you'll forgive me especially now that you know how lonely I am in my reading. Boohoo.

But really, this is a great outlet for me: to talk to writers and other readers; to see that they go through a lot of the same problems I do. I used to be able to read for long stretches. Now if I lie down, fatigue overwhelms me. It's either my illness or my age or both.

But I'm still reading. And I don't care what the others think. They have their life, I have mine.

10:54 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

Ranurgis, I can't recall if you've tried the Lunatic Cafe for Romance Lovers yet (I can't keep track of who is on which of my blogs and boards!)--if you haven't, please do; you'll find a community of romance lovers to chat/argue/commiserate with you:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/LunaticCafe


hnxxo -- How now, xenophobe Xerxes--oxen?

11:49 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

I just read through the rest of the comments. I'm amazed how many similarities there are in all the stories.

I taught languages for about 13 years, had to go through more university courses in Germany to be able to get my teaching degree. My B.A. wasn't considered good enough. A lot of people have said to me: With your intelligence why are you selling Avon? (during a bad stretch in my illness) Or "why are you reading that junk. You're too intelligent for that." Well, let me tell you, some of that vaunted literary stuff made absolutely no sense to me. And take "Mme Bovary" by Gustave Flaubert, for example. It's the story of a woman who commits adultery. Is that story so much more meaningful? I found it totally boring. Yes, maybe the feelings the author put into the book were somewhat more complex but that did not make it great literature for me.

And then I tell them what jobs many of the romance writers left to take up writing. It is all so biased.

One thing that I'd like to say to the person who said she'd never forgive a hurt done to her. You'll be like me, you'll never forget. It's silly to say: Forgive and forget. However, lately a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists have been saying that not forgiving is one of the worst things you can do to yourself. The other person isn't affected by that. Only you are. I've forgiven those who have badmouthed me and am trying to keep an amicable though not deep relationship with them since these are people I have to see from time to time. It's hurting less but once in a while it will flare up again. It's like grieving for someone, I think. Time and forgiveness lessens the pain, but you'll never totally forget it. That is completely unrealistic. But try to forgive them: It can only bring *you* a measure of peace. The other person has probably totally forgotten the incident. So you need to try to put it behind you.

I know I have to reassess what is really important to me. I really do have far too many things that I probably will never use, too many books that I will never read. But I want and need to part with them on my terms, not other people's.

Until then I'll keep reading. Since most of my books are inaccessible right now, I'm reading some from the library. I'm sorry to say that I still haven't read any of Stella's or Lori's but I'll get there. Right now I'm reading an anthology with books by Jayne, Stella and Tess Gerritsen. This one by Jayne is different in plot from any other I've read by her so far but I'm sure it will turn out well. It has to, doesn't it?

0320h EDT. Time to go to bed. Night all.

mlpol - My life put on line.

12:25 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Susanna! You sound like a character I wrote. She was in "Caught in the Act" and she wrote grissly stuff that she researched much as you do. I feel validated! LOL
I'm loving all these posts. I just KNEW that everyone had the same family problems as me.
When someone says they don't understand, or haven't had family like that, I'm never sure if I should be glad for them, or wonder if they've just honestly blocked it. ;-)

Lori

3:59 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Beadlizard, It must be too early, and I didn't get enough sleep. Your post has really made me teary. God love you, I can't imagine surviving cancer. What a strong, strong woman you are.
I'm so sorry you went through that, and I'm so glad that things seem better now.

How wonderful of you to share with your daughter. In school, I felt like an idiot. I thought everyone knew things I didn't because concentrating long enough to learn some of that stuff seemed almost impossible to me. When years later, as part of a routine thing at the school, they tested my IQ, I found out I was in the top 10% of all the students. Amazing. I had no idea.
Neither did my parents. I always got good grades, but I never remembered anything. LOL.
And when my sisters and I graduated HS, there was never any mention of college. It wasn't an option. You moved out at 18, either because you married or just because.
I married - and it was a wonderful decision for me.
But I want all kids out there to know their options now. I want them to know that having a problem with spelling or math or whatever, doesn't make you special ed. (I could always spell, just couldn't do math.)
I want them to know that not everyone remembers everything said to them. We all learn in different ways. I have to DO things, not read about them or listen to someone else tell me.
I'd like for all kids to know that more education is always a good thing, but many times you have to know what education to choose.
I guess I really, really want kids to trust themselves and to know themselves. I want them to become independent, because I don't believe people dependent on others are ever truly happy.
And I want young people to be kind and considerate of others, to know that different doesn't mean bad. It means unique and special.
Too few parents are teaching that these days, and while teachers try, their hands are often tied and they're overworked to the point of almost not caring.
Sad.

One thing I've really noticed in the reader and writer community is how kind everyone is. I personally think it's an extra sensitivity that makes us interested in characters and their journeys, and translates over into the real people in our lives.

Argh, I write such long blogs, and then such long posts to them! LOL.
Sorry.

HUGS, and thank you for sharing.

Lori

4:09 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Tal, you said: I guess if you want to get on Oprah, you can't just make up good stories: you have to make up good stories AND SAY THEY ARE REAL. Of course, then Drudge or someone will investigate, and Oprah will denounce you, but think of the publicity!

You know, for Oprah, you also have to have a tragic, awful ending. Or at the very least a tragic, horrible, pain filled journey.

Debva, you said: Ladies, your writing, be it in your books, or in this blog, lets me escape, gives me hope and joy and challenges my mind. It inspires me to want to struggle with plots and characters, too... even if I'm the only one who ever reads it. It's therapy...and cheaper that a shrink!

Thank you! It's therapy for me too. One day I'm going to bury my builder under my pond. LOL. In a book, of course. But he needs burying. ;-)
Writing about the whacky characters in my life, and some of the more awful things of my childhood, gets them partially out of my head and helps me to put them in perspective.
I'm LOVING how many of you are relating to this.
Thank you!

Robin Please, please keep writing as long as the muse stays with you. As I said, I learn by doing. Well, I wrote 10 complete manuscripts that I sent to every publisher in the biz, and got nothing but rejections. This was on a typewriter. (the first was longhand)I never bought a computer until I sold.
I don't even know how many years it was. I know my friend Dianne (who is a fab writer) says it was over 9 years for her before she sold.
It does get expensive, and that makes us so desperate to sell. Promise me you won't fall into the rut of trying to write to the market. Pretty please!?
You HAVE to write what excites you, whether it's marketable or not. Look at the Harry Potter stories. Can you believe no one wanted those? What if she'd given up? Or decided to write an Oprah book to make her work more marketable. Or if she'd decided the paper was too expensive?

I'm a big believe in responsibilities first. I'd never tell you to take your bill money to buy paper. I'd tell you to work a part time job in addition to your reg job to make enough money to support your writing. ;-)
I'm wishing you lots and lots of luck in getting your work in front of the right publisher at the right time! HUGS!

BadBarb! Hey kiddo. See, I didn't realize that I did that. LOL. But now that you've said it... yeah, most of the confrontation scenes for my characters end up in front of an audience of family or friends. I guess because both always seem to be underfoot, and because the worst thing that could happen to me is to cause a public scene. I hate that. LOL.
Readers always know my books better than I do. I learn so much from you guys.
Ya know, Barb, I am so anxious to see you again next weekend! Can't wait!

This is enough for one post. I'm trying to catch up after being out all day yesterday. First furniture shopping, and then a grad party. It was a gorgeous day!
Hugs to everyone!

Lori

4:23 AM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

Wow, reading the blogs and the comments is like reading a book of short stories, almost!
Fun-fun!
I'm a reader myself, but since my whole family (except one step-sister who's more into music than books) is the same way, it never really occurred to me that that was odd, until I left home, anyway.
I may go through two or three books a day, but my mom goes through four or five, and Grandpa can charge through a textbook a week when he's doing research!
Hm.
I should go tell them how much I love them.
Seriously, when your mom and savta and zayde and other grandpa and brother and dad and stepdad and sisters are all trying to read the same romance at once, life can get... intersting.
But listening to all of you, I guess I'm glad I have that kind of intersting.
Never was before -huh.
It's eye-opening.
Also, please believe me when I say I have the utmost respect for anyone who can focus on one story long enough to get it down on paper.
And then to go and deal with business stuff long enough to get it published?
Well.
That's truly something.

Oh.
And I've heard of Oprah, but I thought she was the woman with a magazine named for her? Something to do with one of the first black women to do really well in business, I thought. Where do books and television come into it?

4:35 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

ranurgis you said: But really, this is a great outlet for me: to talk to writers and other readers; to see that they go through a lot of the same problems I do. I used to be able to read for long stretches. Now if I lie down, fatigue overwhelms me. It's either my illness or my age or both.

Exactly! It is for me, too. For most of us. I like having my morning coffee with all of you. I love talking books and life and family. I love connecting with you.
It truly enriches my life.

What illness do you have? My sis has fibro malgia, bad. I have it somewhat, but not like she does.
It's one of those elusive, hard to target problems. Some still scoff at it.
If they saw the awful swellings in the muscles, the "lumps" that have no reason to be there, and if they felt the fatigue, they would probably understand.
My sister once showed me a muscle problem on her shoulder. Well, let me tell you! You remember that movie where the guy grew another head? That's what it looked like. LOL. She had to get cortisone shots directly into the area and it still took days for the muscle swelling to go down.
I get it about 1/10th as bad as that. Still, it can look icky and feels terrible when your muscles jump up like that.
I hope whatever ails you that you start to feel better soon. I'll be thinking of you!

Oh, and I just read your other post. Honest - this is from the heart - don't feel you need to read my books just to be comfortable chatting with me. I don't read all my friends, and they're still my friends. :-)
We each have only so much time in the day, and if we already have favorites that fill our time, then why add to a load? I totally understand and it doesn't bother me one iota!

I didn't read a post where someone said she couldn't forgive. I must've missed that one. For me, forgiveness is a gray area. Sometimes it's not so much forgiving as it is that I just don't care enough to dwell on it. I have my husband and my kids, a wonderful future daughter in law, and a beautiful rambunctious grandson. I have my books, and my online friends. My life is too full to waste time on someone who would hurt me.
Those who love me are automatically forgiven. We're all human. They forgive me, so of course I forgive them. As long as they don't expect me to be perfect, I can't expect it of them.
And if they aren't one of the loved ones, then who has time to waste that much energy on not forgiving? Not me.

So now after a gazillion posts from me, I'll go get more coffee. LOL.
HUGS!

Lori

4:37 AM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

I read somewhere a phrase that's stuck in my mind (although the origin of it hasn't):
To forgive is not to condone.
I don't know why it resonated so much with me, but it bubbles up out of my memory every time people start talking about holding grudges.
Hope you have more good days than bad, and that your health improves quickly -all three of you! (Lori, Ranurgis, and Lori's sister)

5:23 AM  
Blogger Bookstoredeb said...

First of all, I want to say thank you to all you wonderful ladies for the many, many hours of enjoyment I get from your books.

I am definitely the reader, (and bookseller) and not the writer. I just want to READ it, not write it! Good grief, don't spoil my fun! But I do love talking books to my friends and customers.

I've was always encouraged to read growing up and my folks always managed to find money for my books even if everything else was being held together with shoestrings. God Bless them for that! Now I read even more, constantly! I did it anyway but with my job as the romance manager at the bookstore I work at, I am always trying to read as many of the new books or arcs as possible. So much easier to recommend when you have read the book. lol

As far as being odd ducks in the family....well it seems to me that we are all odd ducks in our own way. Each person has their likes and dislikes, and their background and experiences play a big part of how they relate to others. I just try to live and let live, even if I could cheerfully smack some of them.lol
I have to admit, I am considered odd to some. I was raised as an only child so being alone is ok with me. (I married a man that is one of 11 kids! Talk about culture shock!) I prefer to have time with a good book than putting up with some of the other "oddies" in the world. Especially those that are so thoughtless and hurtful of others. Some seem to think I am nuts to be absorbed in my books all the time. Welcome to my world, I enjoy it tremendously and all I can say is more people should try it, the world would be a better place.

I am closer to some of my online friends and family than I am to my real family. Here I have found people who share my love of books, chatted with wonderful authors, who to my upmost shock are actually "real people" too. When I first started my job at the bookstore and was getting our website started, I wrote several authors asking for interviews, etc. Never once really thinking I would get much of a response. I have been thrilled to chat and interview some wonderful authors and learned that they have the same problems with the kids and houses, jobs, etc that the rest of us have. Wow! Whoever would have thought!!! Not me! lol

Hope all you wonderful ladies keep writing and I promise to keep reading.
HUGS to ALL
Debbie M

PS Sorry for the long post.

10:50 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

It's a GREAT long post, Debbie. ;-)
I enjoyed it. Yup, if more people read instead of critizing and judging others, the world would definitely be a better place.

Shoshana, Oprah is an incredibly successful PERSON, nevermind sex or color. She's made an emormous impact on the world, mostly in a good way I think. She has a very popular talk show, and yes, she has a magazine. If Oprah recommends a book, it's a guaranteed bestseller. She's also recommended underwear and panty hose that have skyrocketed to fame. LOL.
One of the most touching stories I've ever heard from Oprah was her molestation as a young girl. Makes me cry whenever she speaks of it.
She's incredible, and wields amazing influence.

Hugs!

Lori

12:10 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

On the issue of forgiveness, everyone should read THE SUNFLOWER by Simon Wiesenthal. It's a story (fable? memoir? doesn't matter) about a concentration camp inmate doing forced labor at a hospital who one day is called to the bedside of a dying SS officer who asks his forgiveness for atrocities committed against Jews. It's about novelette length, but it's followed by a few dozen brief essays by notable writers, scholars, and clergy of various religions giving their opinions as to what the answer should be--and even what the right questions should be. A wonderful book.

A writer tells the story in her journal of a children's book she tried unsuccessfully to sell for TEN YEARS. Finally, she decided that if on the tenth anniversary of her first sending it out, it still hadn't sold, she'd give up writing.

The manuscript came back, and she was all set to keep her vow, when she realized that she was mentally working out a plot about a writer who gave up writing.

So she kept trying. And she sold the book.

The writer was Madeleine L'Engle, and the book was the award-winning A WRINKLE IN TIME.

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7:06 PM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

I didn't know about that Tal! Excellent point/story.
Whenever you have to think about it for long, I think forgiveness is more for yourself, than for the person seeking forgiveness.
For those we love unconditionally - our children, for instance - it's an almost automatic thing.
Hugs!

Lori

2:22 AM  
Anonymous AgTigress said...

I think forgiveness is more for yourself, than for the person seeking forgiveness.

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That is certainly true.

But there is a significant difference between the intellectual process of forgiving a wrong done to you, and the emotional process of writing it off or cancelling it out, erasing it from the slate that records our lives. They are really quite different things; one is voluntary and under the control of the conscious mind, the other involuntary.

If a relationship with a former friend has been permanently changed because that friend has violated a person's trust, intellectual forgiveness, the deliberate act of a rational mind, still cannot restore the former relationship. The friendship can continue, but it will be on a significantly different basis, without the openness and lack of caution that existed before.

This is why it is irrelevant to speak of people who 'cannot' forgive as being stiff-necked and proud: those who say this are usually confusing mental attitudes with emotional ones. It is actually easier to restore a superficial acquaintanceship after a bad shock than it is to restore a deep and trusting friendship. Few people, I think, really say to themselves, 'I shall never forgive her for gossiping about that famil;y secret I told her about in strict confidence': they are much more likely to say, 'oh, yes - that's all water under the bridge. We're friends again now'. But they will never trust her with privileged information again.

1:51 PM  
Blogger talpianna said...

The answers in THE SUNFLOWER (the story itself had a sort of "Lady and the Tiger" ending) fell into about four categories:

Catholics and Muslims generally said "Forgive, because we are commanded to do so by God."

Protestants and Buddhists generally said, "Forgive, for the sake of your own healing."

Jews said "You have no right to forgive sins committed against anyone else--even God cannot do this. Since his victims are dead, he cannot be forgiven."

And a number of people questioned the sincerity of his repentance for one reason or another.

If anyone does read the book, I think the best answer is that given by distinguished Jewish author Cynthia Ozick.

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11:32 PM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

Lots of interesting replies on forgiveness! I think y'all are a lot deeper than me. LOL. I've never thought about it quite that much. I'm sort of like either, "Of course I forgive you," or "No, you don't deserve forgiveness. Now leave me alone."
LOL

Hugs!

Lori

2:08 AM  
Blogger Jay said...

I loved your post, Lori. :)

When I was a kid, I used to stare off into space for literally hours, lost in my own world. Everyone assumed I'd never amount to anything - the arty child, y'know?

After an IQ test came back with proof that one can be arty without being stupid, I spent a lot of years being told how much I could achieve if I would just apply myself. *eye roll* I guess I don't need to say that writing is not top of the list of good career choices in my family. They consider it a hobby, and as long as I have a good paying day job, they're happy to encourage the hobby.

If I ever sell a novel, you'll be able to hear the fallout over there...

Due to a grandmother from hell and the divorce of my dad's sister from my mum's brother, my parents chose to mov