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    Friday, July 14, 2006

    Building A Plot

    Right after we finished building our house and got moved in, I looked around at our property and decided that we needed a pond. When the pond people (what do you call someone who creates a pond???) asked me what type of pond, and what size pond did I want - I had only a vague idea.

    "Big," I said. "As big as the property will allow."
    There were, of course, leech lines and electrical lines and other necessary considerations.

    "Shape?" the pond guy asked.

    "Natural," I said. "Nothing that looks too manmade."

    And there was my kernel of an idea.

    I had no concept of exactly how the pond would turn out, or exactly where on the property it would go. Worse, I had no idea that some of my huge Sycamore trees would have to topple.
    And so it is when I start a book.
    I have this vague idea, sometimes limited by the publishing house buying it or the characters who infiltrate with the idea. But I have no real true concept of where the idea will go or exactly how it'll turn out.

    I knew my pond would eventually hold water.
    I know my stories will eventually end with a happy, committed couple.
    That's it.


    So, you ask, what is all this blathering about a pond?

    Well, as you see above, I got my pond.
    Just as I get that first plot idea.

    Then I have to ask myself - now what?

    Because the kids swim in the pond a lot, and we all use a little paddle boat, I decided that I needed a gazebo, dock and boardwalk built at one end.

    Sort of like (you guessed it) my books need character development and conflicts and resolutions, both in the external plot, and in the romance.



    This is a shot of my kids, and other kids, playing on the floating dock
    - just as the characters play in my head.

    I took a lot of time deciding exactly what I wanted, how and where I wanted it. Then I hired a contractor.
    It was as he did his work that I originally drew a comparison to my version of plot building.

    You see, when he first got started on the project, I was horrified. Stationary boards looked as crooked as a dog's hind leg. The supports seemed very shaky. There was absolutely no resemblance to the vision I'd carefully drawn out so that he'd understand what the final product should be.

    I could almost see my hard-earned dollars falling into the pond with the fishes!

    My husband, by the way, told me to be patient. We knew the contractor, and knew he did good work.
    So... I summoned up some trust, and watched in awe of his strange process - until finally it started to come together.


    When I start plotting on a book, I have a single scene, character, conflict or piece of dialogue that I build on. If, in those early stages, I told anyone the direction of my thoughts, they'd think I was nuts. Never would they be able to "see" my ultimate vision for the story.

    I remember way back in my Harlequin days, a friend asked what my next book would be.

    I said, "A blind date, where the heroine meets the hero, who isn't the one she's supposed to meet. See, the hero's friend didn't want to go, so he got the hero to go instead. The hero is supposed to tell the heroine that her blind date is crying off. But the heroine doesn't want the blind date either, so she dresses and acts in a way total opposite of her real personality, in an effort to scare the guy away.
    But then the hero sees her and he's intrigued enough that he lets her think he's the blind date. And she's intrigued enough that she doesn't admit she's out of character."

    My friend looked at me, and said, "And?"

    I said, "I dunno. There'll be some other stuff that happens."

    She said, "But that's not enough to be a book. It's barely a scene."

    Alas, that's how I write.
    I grab a kernel of an idea, I park my butt in my chair, and I start putting things on paper.
    Somehow, some magical way, it grows.
    Yeah, it seems awkward at first, mostly because I don't know where it's going.
    Then the characters start talking, and they tell me.

    That's how the contractor worked. He didn't draw out architectural type plans. Nope. He stuck a board in here, a board in there, and built from that.

    When I asked him - looking very dubious, I'm sure - about what he was doing, he said that he needed a foundation where he would start.
    And he promised me that it'd get prettier as it went along.


    A few weeks in (he's a very slow contractor, but good, so we don't quibble too much over his time frames) I could see things coming together. The overall appearance was still that of a strange, gangling, pile of boards and nails with no real purpose.
    But at least one section hung out over the water, as a dock should. Another section edged along the shape of the pond, as a boardwalk should. And a sturdy platform looked like it might support a gazebo.



    I love it when I get to that point in the book when it starts to really make sense to me, when I see what the characters want to do and where they're headed. When they share the secrets with me.
    I'll have these, "Aha!" moments, usually while in bed trying to sleep, and a great turn or development will occur to me.

    Have I already told you about the time I had lunch with my Kensington editor, the head of publicity, and the president of the company? If so, skip this. If not, read on!

    My title, Just a Hint-Clint, had already been released. That book ended with Jamie, a secondary character and the intended hero of the next book, carrying a naked woman up into the mountains where he lived.

    The super nice ladies from Kensington told me that they couldn't wait to see what Jamie was up to.

    I said, "Me, too."

    You see, at that point in time, I honestly had no idea what Jamie was doing. It just seemed like a really great way to end Clint's story. I must have a lot of faith in myself, because I knew that once I let Jamie carry that naked woman away, he'd figure out what he was doing, and why.
    Then he'd tell me.
    And he did.

    The contractor finished the dock first, and it looked stellar. Those crooked boards that had so worried me were now underneath a really pretty dock with a railing and seat and three fine steps leading up to the... is that supposed to be a boardwalk?



    BTW, that gray piece sticking off the end is a floating dock that my boys and their friends use when swimming. It was finished well before the rest of it, so that the kids could get in and out of the pond without stepping on sharp rocks.
    The crane fishing off the end of the floating dock is cool, but greedy.
    He's eating all my frogs!
    If I had my way, he'd be eating goldfish,
    because I have more than enough of those!


    Two photos of our crazy goldfish. How they got in there, we have no idea!

    Anyway, back to my comparisons.
    It's so tough for me when an editor asks me questions on book that I haven't yet finished. Until I reach the end, I'm not too sure what will happen, other than that guaranteed happy ending.
    After I signed with Berkley, they needed a simple paragraph or two giving them an idea of what the first single title, "Causing Havoc" would be about.

    Well, I knew it'd be about a fighter. With estranged family. And I knew there'd be a bad guy. Maybe more than one bad guy. And a heroine. And sex. And a few laughs.
    And somehow, stuff would happen and the hero and heroine would fall in love.
    See, I'd done that much building so far.

    Unfortunately, I told Berkley the wrong bad guy. It turned out to be someone else - and they'd already done a blurb for the book!
    I felt terrible when I had to ask them to change it. But they did.
    Most publishers are very understanding about an author's ever changing direction.

    That particular plot took me longer than usual to build. Instead of my typical 400 pages, I hit 500 - and knew I wasn't really finished. After I mailed it off to the editor, I waited a few days, went back to it, and it became 525 pages.
    But finally it looked like what I wanted it to be.
    Just as my dock, boardwalk and gazebo finally looked like what I wanted it to be.

    I was sort of surprised how the book turned out. But then, I like surprises.
    All authors write differently, and I know some like a very definite map of their plots. They like to know where they're going, how each scene will play out, exactly when the big conflict will occur and how they'll resolve it.

    Not me. If I knew the ending, I wouldn't be compelled to write the book. I'd be bored in minutes. If I did a detailed outline, I'd feel like I'd already written the book.
    For me, the joy of writing is in the discovery, the surprises and - hopefully - the satisfaction when the book is done.
    I'm a movie buff. LOVE going to the movies. But my favorites are the movies that take me by surprise, yet still give me a happy ending. For some reason, my brain is focusing on John Travolta, so I'll give three examples of his movies that took me by surprise - Pulp Fiction, which I loved, Get Shorty and Be Cool. Great twists, surprising chuckles, and very fun. My type of flicks.
    And how about Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense, or The Fifth Element?
    Harrison Ford in What Lies Beneath?
    GREAT surprises in each of those movies.
    What about you? Do you like to be surprised? Can you name some books that took you by surprise? Or even a line in a book that took you by surprise. I know after my old (old, old) Harlequin novel, Scandalized hit the stands, a ton of readers wrote to me about their surprise over the garage scene. Worth a laugh, I think.
    Or one of my all-time favorite lines ever in a book that not only took me by surprise, but still makes me laugh when I think of it. For all you JAK fans, you'll recall, "Good news. She doesn't need therapy."
    Could it get more perfect than that!?
    Okay, now your turn. Share a line, a scene, a character - anything - that took you by surprise.
    Happy reading everyone!

    50 Comments:

    Blogger Lynn said...

    Thanks Lori, what a cool post. I have to admit you had me wondering what Jamie was up at the end of Clint's book, but it was worth the wait to see (especially since Joe was still there!).

    I love that line in JAK's book! "Good news. She doesn't need therapy." Makes me laugh every time I read - and reread -it.

    I can't think of anything right now beyond the classic GWTW line from Rhett: "Frankly, Scarlett ...". I'm sure something will come to me later.

    6:28 AM  
    Blogger nellsquirrel said...

    Okay - I'm turning green with envy over your pond and stuff. *sigh*

    I LOVE that line from JAK! That just sent me howling to the floor.

    I love surprises but that have to be "good" if you know what I mean. When someone dies in a book unexpectedly, it pisses me off. I have to deal with REAL life every day, I don't want it in my fiction!!!

    I great scene that I love is at the end of Mackenzie's Pleasure by Linda Howard with the introduction of their hellion daughter, Nick. It was such a surprise and still makes me laugh thinking about it!

    7:51 AM  
    Blogger susanna in alabama said...

    I'm guessing you're one of those who doesn't sneak a peek at the end, Lori? :0

    I do love plot twists and turns, and if the surprise isn't a cheater surprise (a la Bobby's year-long shower), then I'm happy. In my real life, though, I'm not so much into surprises. I like control too much. :\

    Gorgeous pond, gazebo, dock. A lady with vision indeed!

    8:01 AM  
    Blogger Kelley said...

    Lori, Your pond, gazebo, and dock are beautiful!!!

    I do like surprises. That shock value just adds to the book or movie. Its great when something happens that you don't see coming.

    BTW, you write great blogs :)

    8:10 AM  
    Blogger Lucy Monroe said...

    Lori...I love that line from JAK's book! She has a knack for those kinds of lines...Julie Garwood does too. I love a book I can put down after reading it and still be smiling or chuckling over a line I've read in it.

    You did a great job of surprising me with Jamie and why he was carrying that nekked lady up the mountain. But I so understand that process. I write the same way and it can get scary when you're halfway through the book and still not sure how the HEA is going to come about, but I figure if I'm wondering, readers will still be wondering...and maybe reading. LOL

    But you know, I tend to remember scenes from books more than just great lines. Like the first love scene in "Too Much Temptation"...it was so...so *perfect* and the opening scene from "When Bruce met Cyn". Totally surprising and a great springboard for an amazing story. Another author who is really great for surprising me is Susan Elizabeth Phillips. When the heroine's dog peed on the dad's casket in "It Had to be You" was so exactly what that book was about and darn funny.

    Anyway, like your contractor, you do a darn fine job building that final product and providing something beautiful to your readers. :)

    9:02 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Why, if it isn't *THE* Lucy Monroe! Howdy lady. Thanks for dropping in. And thanks for the super lovely comments. No wonder I adore ya. ;-)

    Hey Kelley, well shucks. I write great blogs? Really? Cuz, um, I was worried if anyone would understand my crazy comparison. LOL. I'm glad I didn't lose you!

    Susanna, the only time I peek in books is if it's a time travel, and that's because of a "Knight in Shining Armor." I now live in fear of the h & h NOT being together at the end of a TT. I'm such a sap about that.
    Even in real life, I like surprises, and I'm a mega control freak. It just better be a GOOD surprise. ;-)

    Nellsquirrel (now *where* did that name come from!?) I'm with you. Good characters are not allowed to die. Not ever. I remember Linda Howard said she couldn't write any more Mackenzie books, because Wolf was getting so old, she'd have to kill him off - and I'm SO thankful that she won't/can't do that. Shew. It'd destroy me!

    Lynn,I'm pretty sure *everyone* who read Clint's story was left wondering what the heck Jamie had gotten into. LOL. It was pretty fun figuring him out.

    To those who complimented my pond, thank you. I don't swim in it because some of those fish are HUGE, but I love to walk down there each night and feed the fishies. Now we have a snapping turtle that comes out for chow too. Fun.

    Is there anyone who didn't love that line in Perfect Partners? It was the absolute best ever. I roared when I read it, then had all 3 boys asking me what was so funny. LOL Oh, to create a line like that! Maybe some day.

    Happy reading everyone! Thank you for popping in.

    Lori

    9:24 AM  
    Blogger nellsquirrel said...

    Nell is my nickname and squirrel was my "handle" at Ms. Ann's BB.
    Yep - we're weird.

    Lori - you do a lot of funny surprises! I'm lousy at remembering lines but I know more than once you've made me go "Where did THAT come from??!!" LOL!!! (In a good way, of course!)

    If the fish get too big, you can always ask Evan and Ann to do a little fishing to reduce the numbers in your pond. ;-)

    9:37 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Nell, the problem is that now the fish are like pets. Ridiculous, I know, but I recognize some of them! One particular catfish has short whiskers, one bass has a chunk of tail missing, probably thanks to a turtle... Will you laugh if I tell you that I've given then names? LOL

    Thanks, I'm glad I can surprise you sometimes in my books. I'm encouraged! LOL

    Hugs,

    Lori

    10:29 AM  
    Blogger Emeraldax said...

    Hmm...off the top of my head, one of the biggest shockers was finding out what was in Mr. Rochester's attic. Hoo boy, it'll be hard to think of one that tops that.

    10:45 AM  
    Blogger nellsquirrel said...

    Lori - in Hawai'i the name their fish on a regular basis (Koi). They are passed from generation to generation. They can live up to 125 years or more!!! Nope, not surprised you recognized and named them. You'd fit right in to the Hawaiian lifestyle!!! *sigh* I miss it...

    10:47 AM  
    Blogger elizabeth said...

    Thanks for reminding me of a great scene--"Good news. She doesn't need therapy." LOVE JAK. :-)

    3:52 PM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    Since the contractor did all the work, it looks like the moral of your story is "Hire a ghostwriter." Surely that can't be what you meant....

    There was a huge surprise at the end of Sharon Lee and Steve Miller's Liaden Universe novel I DARE, in which a totally unexpected offspring shows up!

    xpbicvi -- ten paperbacks in curriculum vitae inventory

    4:39 PM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Nell, we have Koi, only they aren't as pretty as they're supposed to be. Two of them have really red mouths. It's icky. LOL.

    Emeraldax, don't throw tomatoes at me, but I have no idea what was in Rochester's attic. :::ducking!::::

    Tal, tsk, tsk, tsk. You didn't get the message! The contractor started funky, but made it right... just as I start funky and (I hope) make it right. :-D
    A ghostwriter! Shudder. For a control freak like me, that'd be waaaaay tough! LOL

    Have an awesome evening everyone,

    Lori

    6:26 PM  
    Anonymous Lori of Canada said...

    Lori,

    Who doesn't love that scene? What a riot...and so perfectly timed.

    OTher scenes I love? How about the examining room in "Playing Doctor"? I loved that.

    From JAK's Trust Me, I love this exchange:

    "That's enough, Tony," Desdemona said sharply ... "Which one of you uses the whip?" Tony drawled ... "We like to take turns," Stark said.

    There are scenes in other books I love, like Linda Howard's Mr. Perfect and Dream Man.... and JD Robb's books (I love a number of the lines in that)....and there is Jennifer Crusie's Fast Women.

    When it comes to movies, I love good surprises. One of my fave movie surprises was The Usual Suspects. I loved that... and Saw scared the crap out of me but what a surprise at the end....

    (I love the pond, Lori. How amazing. Your property looks so beautiful)

    Lori M .

    6:36 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Your land looks lovely, Lori. You could call one of the red-mouthed fish, Hoolihan:) I like koi, they're so sure of their importance.

    Mmm, a surprise ending that stands out? The end of Daphne DuMaurier's Rebecca was pretty stunning.

    Stella

    6:43 PM  
    Anonymous Ranurgis said...

    I kept wondering which JAK book that quote was from. Turns out it's from one of the very few of her around 150 books that I have not yet read. I must get to it. I was going to ask for the title.

    I love the quotes that the readers of both JAK's and EL's books put in the quotes sections. I've put in quite a few myself, though not lately.

    There's a big surprise in "The Prey" by Allison Brennan--several actually. I just finished it but I won't give away more than that. It's a great suspense read from beginning to end. She doles out the information sparingly and has some wonderful secondary characters.

    I can't think of any other books off hand. I guess I'd never really thought too much about books in terms of surprises but it's true that "Rebacca" definitely is one of them.

    As for surprises in my personal life: I've had none but bad ones lately. A few minor nice or good ones but maybe I'm due for a big "nice" surprise. Just no more bad ones, please, God.

    The analogy between the building of your pond and that of your books is great. And I love both. Speaking of ponds, I wish I could go up to my sister's for a few days at least but all vehicles are needed up there on their farm. They also have livestock and when their farm's first-born little bull drowned in a pond, not sure if natural or manufactured, they were quite devastated. They of course had to name all their Highland Cattle for the registry. My brother-in-law keeps emphasizing that they are *not* pets. I have a feeling it's almost more for himself than for the others. I don't know if he's named his trout as well.

    And I love your pictures. How great to have such a wonderful place. Enjoy, enjoy.

    11:04 PM  
    Anonymous dani said...

    I don't know why but the scene that's sticks is from a Harlequin years ago, she walks into the office and says" My God Alex!, you look like a dentist" to which he replies what did you think I'd look like, I am a dentist.

    12:18 AM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    What was in Mr. Rochester's attic was the mad Mrs. Rochester. Later she burned the house down.

    I've read a theory that suggests that Mr. R. pushed her off the roof and Jane had better be careful if he ever gets bored with her...

    meuddqk -- Many excellent undertakers die daily 4 Quick/Krentz.

    drnds -- Don't repeat news, do something!

    12:38 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Dani, that is so funny. Dentists DO always look like dentists! I wonder what it is about them. LOL

    Ranurgis, I'm so sorry you've had bad news lately. Not fun. I hope you are due for a nice big surprise in a good way. Maybe the lottery? :-D
    We don't have the type of land you'd need for a farm. We only have 5 acres, but part of it is wooded, and I do like my pond.
    I read somewhere - and I bet Elizabeth could back me on this - that water releases negative ions, which in turn work on us like happy pills or something. They release tension and leave people more relaxed.
    Being on or near water has always had that effect on me.
    Plus I like my privacy. I like to step outside in my pjs to let my dogs do their morning business, and not worry about a neighbor seeing me.
    One of these days, I'd like a summer house on a lake. We keep checking into it, but everything takes so much time and we're forever busy.

    Tal, the things you say crack me up, and I don't even understand half of them! LOL

    Have a terrific morning everyone! The sun is *almost* up here. ;-)

    Lori

    3:05 AM  
    Blogger DFender said...

    Wow, great pond and accessories, Lori... it looks gorgeous. Probably pretty peaceful feeding your pets out there huh? :)

    As for surprises, not too fond of 'em myself... I can't stand being caught off guard I guess. Yes, I'm a "peeker". The journey is my favorite part so it doesn't hurt my enjoyment.

    I just hafta know that my favorite character will "make it"...lol. Speaking of which, I watched "8 Below" with the DH last night and not only did I bawl like a baby but I laughed myself silly too. That's the kinda surprise I can deal with. When you expect something nice and you get wonder instead.

    I just finished Christine Feehan's "Night Game" and alot of the dialogue was just plain hysterical... I loved it. Way more humorous than I thought it would be.

    Your blogs are a blast to read, Lori... thanks for taking the time :)

    Deb

    giqqje: Great intrigue Quills quote, journeying endlessly.

    5:13 AM  
    Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

    Hey, Lori -- I know what you mean about not having a clue how the book will actually turn out until you write the last page! But I guess that's how it is for us "edge-of-the-seat" type writers.

    Sometimes I think it would sure be nice to have a good road map before I start. But you're right. That would take a lot of the thrill out of the trip...

    --Jayne

    10:38 AM  
    Blogger Cbell said...

    Lori... thank you so much for this blog. I am taking an online creative writing class and my final assignment is a simple 500 word piece that I have begun, with one character... and have absolutely NO IDEA what is going to happen once he actually gets out of bed. I am glad that my inability to foresee the end is not my lack of creativity... but is just the beginning of a journey. I now feel the freedom to just let go and let it happen! Thanks!

    11:34 AM  
    Blogger Susie said...

    Wow.
    I just found this blog and had to say -- that's an awesome post. Love the pics and the talk of construction, of both novel and pond!

    I'll be reading (and don't worry, not posting dull comments such as this). -s

    1:20 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Nora Roberts who was asked to turn in an outline of her book. She wrote the book first, then went back and did the outline!

    That water idea is probably why people love to stand under a shower even though they have already finished with the washing part!

    Love your pond, Lori!

    Oh yeah, funny lines. Linda Howards Open Season, where the mother and the aunt have a way of telling if a guy is gay is if he knows what the color puce is!

    2:53 PM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    Perhaps you guys should check out the WordWenches blog, where they've been discussing the "flying into the mist" style of writing.

    I just bought one of those sound machines with ten different sounds and a 60 minute automatic timer, so I can go to sleep to the sound of rainfall, thunderstorm, brook, waterfall, ocean waves, etc. It really does help. Knocks the socks off the cats, too.

    By the way, about your pond: I hear the Loch Ness Monster is looking for a new summer place--less crowded with tourists, gourmet dining (Nessie LOVES goldfish!), and the like....

    zuwehp -- Zoos use weapons, elephants hate peanuts.

    4:27 PM  
    Blogger PattiF said...

    Wow, great analogy on how a story is plotted. It is so true how ideas start out as a glimmer and grow into a full fledged story.
    Loved it, Lori!

    PS...glad to see you're blogging now. :)

    10:08 PM  
    Blogger Karibear said...

    Plots and characters are tricksy things. Every time I’ve tried to outline a story, the characters seem to laugh at me and take over. They do exactly what they want, not what I’ve planned for them. I get a perfectly good story all done in my mind, but as soon as I start with the keyboard [thank heavens it’s no longer a pen!] the characters run amuck and do their own thing. I really truly admire people who can create an outline and stick to it, but I am definitely not one of them. For me, it works best to start with a single scene or concept, and let the characters do whatever they want. It’s sort of scary at times, the things they do, but it’s also a lot of fun.

    Your pond and fish are lovely. It all looks so peaceful.

    I remember seeing an outdoorsy program on the Pacific Northwest years ago about a couple who raised koi mostly to sell. Their yard, if it could be called that, was a vast series of koi ponds. Their house was incredible - the biggest room was built over one end of one of the ponds so they could hand-feed their favorites right inside. What really blew me away over the whole thing was the value of it all - the cheapest fish they sold were $2K each, the more expensive were $20K. And there were thousands of them! It all started as her hobby and grew, just like Topsy. Now, that could be an interesting book...

    12:00 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    dfender, the need to know that my favorite characters - those folks that have gotten me to invest my time - will make it, is my reason for reading romance almost exclusively. That guaranteed happy ending is a very important thing to me.
    The pond is peaceful, and my doggies love walking down there - as long as the deer or raccoons don't pester them. LOL

    cbell, one major thing I've learned along the way of publication is that ALL writers do it differently, and yet there will always be someone trying to tell you how YOU have to do it.
    DO NOT LISTEN. Whatever path gets you where you're going, with the end result that you want, is the right path. Trust me on this. Take workshops, try creative writing classes, but only with the idea that someone might have a suggestion you can use. Absorb it all as suggestions. Okay? Big hugs and good luck!

    Susie, your response was no boring. LOL. Thanks for reading the blog and taking the time to post. Appreciate it!

    Anon, to this day, I still don't know what color puce is! LOL. I don't think I could pass any tests of any kind. ;-)

    Happy Sunday morning, everyone!

    Lori

    4:14 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Tal, do NOT send Nessie to me! LOL. I'm not sure I'd be able to keep enough food around. ;-)
    The goldfish are already eating me out of house and home. We've taken to giving them cat food because it's cheaper and more readily available than fish food. They like it just as much. A bucket a day goes down that hill. The fish hear us coming and start swarming. The carp flip out of the water. The cat fish crawl all over each other. The goldfish make these awesome streams of color in the water. They're like little gangs of goldfish that hang out in different sections of the pond. LOL. Very fun.
    The bass are fast - you see them in a flash and then they're gone.

    On sound machines... I've had one for years! First heard one when I got to visit with Linda Howard at her home while doing a speaking thing for her local chapter. A very fond memory on my part, since she's one of my fave authors. After meeting her, she's a fave person too. Very, very nice.
    Anyway, she had a sound machine and I fell in love with it. I usually listen to rainfall.

    Lori

    4:18 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Jayne, I didn't know you were a panster! I knew Stella was, but wow - you too, huh? I wonder about Elizabeth, Suzanne and Susan now. Wouldn't it funny if all the Quills were "write by the seat of their pants" type of authors? :-)

    Patti and Karibear! Familiar people. :::Waving hi!::::
    Kari, I could never sell fish. I'm attached to them all. Even that nasty snapping turtle now has my attention, and I watch for him/her (how can you tell!?) when I drop in food.
    You both write the way I write. It's sort of an adventure to see where you go. LOL.

    It's a beautiful day today except for the raccoons all over my porch. 5 of them! They came to eat the cat food and now they're camped out. Geeze. This is almost as bad as the time the skunk took up residence on the side porch and refused to leave. LOL

    Lori

    4:23 AM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    Lori, puce (French for "flea") is an ugly brownish-purple color. Dowager duchesses in Regencies, as I may have mentioned before, tend to wear it on formal occasions, accessorized with lashings of diamonds, which definitely helps!

    Feeding Nessie and not being able to afford to feed all your fish sound like problems with a mutual solution to me! And as a bonus you might get Kaatherine the Bi-Colored Python Rock Snake, who is hanging out in Elizabeth's garden to be near the Midgard Serpent. She's a black belt in Py Thon Do, you know--gives the moles lessons.

    Anyway, I think you need something more than fish and a crane to trump Jenny Crusie's personal vultures....

    I think the sound machine I have is primarily intended for babies, as it has a heartbeat sound and no clock or radio (which is fine). I like thunderstorm or ocean waves best.

    If I were you, I'd call someone to get rid of the raccoons. They're cute, but I believe they can carry rabies.
    ***************************************************
    I have a suggestion for the Quills. I notice that there are seven WordWenches and they each have a day to blog. There are only five of you so far, so there are two free days. How about using at least one of them to all add brief responses to reader queries that catch the interest of all of you? One of the biggest disappointments in the blog vs. bulletin board method of communication with authors is that it's harder to ask questions. The questions, like this entry, can be set off with asterisks.
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    Here's mine: We've all talked about books we love, that have made our lives better in some way. Have you ever been harmed by a book? I have.
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    kriuul -- Krentz runs into ululating urinal, laughing.

    5:29 PM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Tal, we are catching the raccoons one by one and releasing them a few miles from our house in a park. We're not into killing anything - I just can't. But the park is a good place for them. So far we've caught 4! They're HUGE too.

    Your question idea is a good one. I'll make sure the other quills see it. ;-)

    So what book hurt you? I haven't had that happen, thankfully.

    Hugs!

    Lori

    4:55 AM  
    Blogger DFender said...

    Ha! A funny passage in a book... I thought I'd "run" in here and post it since it's too hard for me to remember all that I come across.

    "I'm pissed off, I'm scared and I'm horny. And I'm getting a headache."

    "Take a couple of aspirin, lie down. And let me know when horny leads the pack."

    LMAO... that's from Nora Roberts - Angels Fall.

    hahaha...

    Deb

    xjyhrob: Xenophobes join young hitchhikers running over bananas.

    8:01 AM  
    Blogger Emeraldax said...

    Thanks to talpiana for clarifying what was in Rochester's attic.

    Jane Eyre had been wondering about the mysterious circumstances of strange noises in the attic, and the housekeeper that was always going in and out of it. An inadequate explanation was given to her about it, and she accepted it because she was distracted by the fact that she was falling in love with Mr. Rochester.

    Much to her delight (and the readers), Mr. Rochester fell in love with her and they made plans to marry. On the day of their wedding, in the ubiquitous "If anyone has just cause why this marriage should not take place," moment, a man arrived and claimed that Mr. Rochester was already married. Quel horror! The man was Mrs. Rochester's brother.

    Mr. Rochester brought everyone - Jane, the priest, the brother - up to the attic so they could behold his wife. She had been crazy when they married, unbeknownst to Rochester, and she had gotten so bad that she was practically a wild animal at this point. He bade everyone compare his wife with Jane, and judge him for his desire to live a happy life with Jane.

    Lots more happened in the book, but I tell you that when the truth about the attic and his wife was revealed, I was quite amazed. I also felt so bad for Mr. Rochester. What a tortured man. Timothy Dalton played him most excellently in the BBC version, which I own.

    Jeez, I'm going to have to try and find time to watch it, now.

    8:19 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I loved a line in Julie Garwood's Heartbreaker from bad boy character Noah Clayborn, FBI agent working in disguise as a priest. (So contradictory to his true character.) Anyway, some hoodlums have just slashed a tire, trashing what they think is the hero's (and Noah's buddy's) car. Noah says, "Thank the Lord we've got a spare." Hoodlums proceed to slash a second tire. Turns out, the car being vandalized actually belonged to the hoodlum's father, only the boy didn't know it. It was such a funny scene.

    11:56 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "Is there anyone who didn't love that line in Perfect Partners? It was the absolute best ever. I roared when I read it, then had all 3 boys asking me what was so funny. LOL Oh, to create a line like that! Maybe some day."

    Lori, I think you had a great line just recently from your short story, Luscious. Don't you remember? "I'm a gentleman, I always wait for the lady...."

    That was a great line.

    12:06 PM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    Lori, it was a book of Poe's stories I read when I was ten; gave me night terrors for years.

    Emeraldax, have you read WIDE SARGASSO SEA by Jean Rhys? It's the story of Rochester's wife.

    wrbfviwh --Wish Robert Browning felt very irate with hippies

    bugnz --The Auckland Institute of Entomology

    3:33 PM  
    Anonymous Ranurgis said...

    Well, after all the comments I've read about it, I really *must* find my copy of PP or get one from the library. It certainly seems to be a classic JAK line. And wouldn't you know it, that's one of the books I haven't yet read.

    Can't go back to read all the comments but I remember Lori's question about what you call a guy who makes pools. I know he's a landscape architect. But maybe I should try to get it from "the horse's mouth" though even the English language does not have a specific designation for every occupation. So a "pool architect" might be a possible name.

    Can't let my computer run too long. I think it doesn't really like the heat and humidity either. It crashed big-time on me already.

    4:17 PM  
    Blogger Karibear said...

    I can't think of any books that hurt me, but there are certainly a bunch that had me in stitches. The Butterfly Kid by Chester Anderson [which is apparently a nearly unobtainable classic these days]; The Sotweed Factor; a bunch of early stuff by Elizabeth Scarborough, like The Drastic Dragon of Draco Texas, The Goldcamp Vampire, and her whole unicorn series. More recent are Joan Smith's Aunt Sophie's Diamonds, Coulter's Legacy series, Crusie's stuff, a lot of JAK, and too many more to go on about.

    What scared me were the old Lon Chaney and Bella Lugosi movies. Didn't need no steenkin' books for that!

    7:16 PM  
    Blogger Emeraldax said...

    Yes, I've heard of Wild Sargasso Sea. Haven't read it.

    I can't really think of a book that would have hurt me, unless it bounced back from when I threw it against the wall.

    Two books that are etched in my brain as being quite painful to read for my 9th grade class were Great Expectations and A Separate Peace.

    6:37 AM  
    Blogger DFender said...

    The Scarlet Letter, with Hester, is what first brought any type of political correctness to mind for me... not necessarily hurtful, just eye-opening. I guess I started paying attention to the world around me about that time. I figured if that had slipped past me, what are the chances something else important did the same thing? The ol' double standard really woke me up when I was in 7th grade. Go figure.

    Deb

    3:58 PM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    I really had in mind a book that scared or depressed you in a way that lasted for some time. I believe a lot of people have had that reaction, for example, to the death of Beth in LITTLE WOMEN; and some editions (and at least one of the films) omit it.

    auywzz -- All us yaks want Zoe's zippers.

    6:30 PM  
    Blogger Karibear said...

    Well... there's Stabenow's Hunter's Moon [I think that's the one] where the heroine lives and her SO is killed. It's a powerful scene, but I'd much rather have had him survive. That's not a romance, tho, but a straight mystery.

    6:41 PM  
    Blogger Karibear said...

    OMG, I did just think of a book that gave me the horrors. The Painted Bird, by Jerzy Kosinski. And some of his other stuff, but that was the worst, particularly since I knew quite a few WW II refugees.

    11:32 PM  
    Blogger Emeraldax said...

    In college I read my first Patricia Cornwell book, and I was staying the summer in Richmond, VA (I live here now). The book was set in Richmond and was about a psycho who breaks into apartments and brutally murders women. Yeah, that was a *bit* freaky. Of course, leaving out the freak factor, it was such an excellent story and I have been a fan of hers ever since.

    On a completely different note, I remember one time I found in a used bookstore a novel that was the sequel to a story I had read years before and really enjoyed. I have since forgotten the title or author. I just remember the heroine's name was Bryony (sp?). Anyway, I was thrilled to find a sequel so I took it home. It horrified me. There was a sequence in the book where the heroine loses her memory and a scumbag makes her believe that he is her husband. He rapes her over and over before she finally escapes. I couldn't believe that this was taking place. Most romance novels I had read before that and since never had anything as awful as rape in them. If I want to read that kind of brutality, I'll read...well...Patricia Cornwell or something similar. Anyway, that just really depressed me that this sequel completely ruined what had been a very nice love story.

    4:55 AM  
    Blogger elizabeth said...

    I'm a pantser. I know the very broad plot, have the characters well in hand, have researched the backdrop (also a character!), and then I shove it all off the mountaintop and try to beat the mess to the bottom in one piece. :-0

    11:42 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    You're all still chatting! Why didn't I know this? LOL. My husband has been on vacation and we've doing some fun remodeling, so I've been out more than in. What a fun surprise to find more comments here.

    Deb, what a great line! I love that. By all means, let horny rule! LOL

    Emeraldax, that sounds so, so sad for the groom! I don't think I could watch that. Anything sad makes me cry, and then my nose turns bright red and my eyes swell really bad. It's not a pretty sight.

    Anon, I love ALL of Julie Garwood's books. She's incredible. And thank you for mentioning that line in my novella. I had a great time writing Lucius's story. ;-)

    Ranurgis, not pools - ponds. Like small lakes. ;-) Manmade ones. I'm sure the "creator" of such has a title, but I don't now what it is. Maybe just general contractor? or maybe something with landscaping?

    Let's see... books that maybe hurt me. I read one on child abuse once, and I've been tortured over the fate of some children ever since. i almost can't bear it. I also read Jaws, and I've been afraid of murky water since. The book was so much more effective than the movie, and the movie was really, really good!

    Elizabeth, it's so cool to know others who write like me, especially when much of the RWA workshops are geared around planning and plotting ahead of time. I have great respect for anyone who can do a "teaching" workshop, because I have no idea how one would teach creativity and imagination, and the definite need to trust yourself as a write - the things that I think are most important to our profession. ;-)

    Big hugs!

    Lori

    4:59 AM  
    Blogger Rhoda said...

    this is quite a terrible thing for me to do. I have searched the web for an excerpt from "When Bruce Met Cyn", and just can not find one anywhere. Can you lead me to one.

    My reason for this is I am in the process of writing a novel with a Reverend as the hero, and mentioned to a friend that I was unsure if it was wise to do if I wasn't writing a Steeple Harlequin. Anyway, this friend recommended this book to me. I don't want to read it until I'm finished this, because I don't really don't want it to influence me. However I do want to read it later.

    Can you please point me to an excerpt.

    Thanks
    Rhoda C. Hill

    2:38 PM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    Hi Rhoda,

    No problem. There are excerpts for all my books on my website - www.lorifoster.com - under the book drop down menu, and then go to single titles, and scroll down to Bruce.
    If that's too confusing :-)
    then this should be a direct link - http://lorifoster.com/books/excerpts/bruce-exc.htm

    Hope that helps.
    You know, I just never hesitate to write whatever comes into my head. It's my opinion that it matters more HOW you write it, than WHAT you write. ;-)

    Good luck!

    Lori

    3:22 PM  
    Blogger Rhoda said...

    thanks Lori!

    5:17 PM  

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