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Friday, May 04, 2007

Susan ponders the ethics of photographing naked men




I just got back from Spain. We chose it in part because the America's Cup is being hosted by Valencia and the Soulmate is a fool for sailing. Back in the day, he crewed for the occasional race. Not to mention that I’m working on a book with a hero who makes his living sailing in Europe (even if for most of the story he’s back home picking up the slack in the family business).

So what does this have to do with naked men, you ask? And why the big ethical dilemma about snapping their picture?

Well, it's like this. We stayed at a hotel on the Mediterranean about 15 kilometers from Valencia. And each afternoon when we got back from town, we’d go down to the beach to walk in the surf. The first day we’d barely cleared the dunes when this group of men we privately called The Lads shed all their clothing and stood in a circle sort of egging each other on. I had a camera in my hand and my first inclination was to photogragh them for the edification of my girlfriends. Or, wait! It would be strictly educational-- a visual aid to go along with the shots I took of churches and museums to demostrate how I spent my Spring Vacation)

But no. The Lads deserve their privacy, insisted my principled side. Of course the minute they were dressed again my baser side could have kicked itself. Because, c’mon—stripping on a public beach sort of defies the expectation of privacy, don’tcha think?

On the other hand, what if it’s a cultural thing and I stuck my camera lense where it was tacitly understood no camera lense would go? Still, I was beginning to doubt that was the case, as this beach connected to a national park that largely catered to families. And The Lads were the only ones I saw in the buff.

Then on our last day we walked quite a way down the beach. And when I turned around I realized it probably was a cultural reality in Spain. For there was a VERY naked-worthy man strolling behind us. Omigawd. Full frontal nudity staring me right in the--

Cough. Okay, I admit it. I can be a rube. And in the end, my baser side won out. I didn’t have the guts to do so when he was facing me, but the instant he turned back in the direction from which we’d all come, I took his picture.

And immediately felt guilty. I really am ambivalent about how ethical this is. Not so much that I erased the picture, mind you. But--and much as I'd love to share with you my very-stellar-if-I-do-say-so-myself camerawork-- I do know better than to post Mr. Buff's image on the internet, where it would no doubt remain long after the man himself turned to dust.

But knowing I can't tell you this only to leave you all hanging, I’m offering another buff guy I photographed. He won’t mind.


And for those of you who know me? Be sure to ask to see my wallet the next time you see me. It’s sporting a brand new snapshot.

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I guy parades nudes around in public then he deserves having his picture taken. As for putting it on the Internet, I´m with you, I wouldn´t do it.

12:33 AM  
Blogger DFender said...

Susan,
LOLOLOL... whatta great way you've given me to start the day!

The HHP and myself ran into the same tissue...erm...issue in Italy last year. Raised a middle America, midwest kid, well, I was shocked, furiously blushing... and delighted.

Yes, yes, I took pictures, I couldn't help myself. The subjects didn't seem to mind so I really don't feel badly about doing it. I wouldn't post 'em on the 'net but, sheesh, did I have some 'splaining to do to my parents and our kids when they watched our films...Ha! I didn't let 'em kid me, they liked 'em too.

Happy Friday and thanks so much for sharing that part of your trip. Hope you enjoyed yourself. *snicker LOL

Deb

3:23 AM  
Blogger Lynn said...

You certainly do have a way with blog titles! LOL

The lovely lads in question were lucky several young tourists did have camera phones in their charming vicinity.

Thanks for sharing what you did on your spring vacation.

5:46 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

SUSAN PONDERS THE ETHICS OF PHOTOGRAPHING NAKED MEN

lolololololol Now, that's a great headline! Thanks for a good laugh on this Friday morning, Susan.

Happy weekend all!
~EG

7:19 AM  
Blogger Lori Foster said...

LOL! Susan, you are too funny.
I'd have died on the spot. And probably avoided the beach after that. I'm such an old fuddy duddy. LOL
Yeah, in your wallet you say? Maybe I'll just ask for a quick peek when we meet.... ;-)

Lori

10:02 AM  
Anonymous Nancy R said...

A few years ago while on a cruise ship I kept climbing ladders trying to get the perfect picture of the harbor. When I reached the top most deck I snapped several pictures and as I lowered the camera I realized that I was on the nude sunbathing deck. With a very red face I made a quick escape. I didn't even think to take any more pictures.

10:15 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Spain, huh? *visualizes naked bull fighters*

LMAO. You need a camera that takes pictures at a ninety degree angle to where the lens is aimed!

11:04 AM  
Blogger karende said...

I don't see any problem with taking pictures of whatever - or whoever - you see. It just depends on what they are doing, men or women. Speaking for myself, I'd rather see a completely naked person than one wearing a thong, but that's just me. I also grew up in the midwest, but somehow I got passed by when the prude genes got handed out.

karibear

1:40 PM  
Blogger Judy F said...

oh that would have had me speechless and acting like a teenager.

I too went up on the nude deck of the cruise ship I was on but it was the first day at sea and anyone could go up but after that it was strictly naked. didn't go back.

1:50 PM  
Blogger Stella said...

Susan, what a laugh! I would have been with Lori, red-faced and hiding.

Stella

2:11 PM  
Blogger Brandy said...

HAHAHAHA! I would never have had the nerve! Um, remind me to visit Spain.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Craig said...

Consider the reverse:

A guy and his buddy are walking down the beach, just over the dune are some ladies shucking their duds, right down to the birthday suit! What would he do?

The moral ethical debate in a man lasts microseconds and then the camera starts the clicking noise.

It's an odd world we live in. The male nude was once considered very taboo, and now, click click, the internet is filled with pictures of everyone nude doing unspeakable things with everyone and everything around them.

Taking a few pics of an unclothed lad wouldn't really infringe on any of their modesty. If they had any modesty, they wouldn't be buck naked in public in the first place.

They would probably subscribe to the blog.

Craig

8:35 AM  
Blogger MichiganMom said...

Susan~

Will you be doing a book tour again in Michigan? Then I could ask to see your wallet!

10:09 AM  
Blogger susan andersen said...

Elizabeth, you wicked wicked woman. I LIKE your camera with an angled lens idea! Had I had one of those, I'd really have a picture to show.

Craig, for someone whose picture is so fresh-faced, that's diabolical. But inspired--definitely inspired. I could have taken pictures with impunity...then handed out my RWQ's card.

Michiganmom, I haven't heard anything about touring this summer, but the two I went on last year came up out of the blue, so maaaaybe.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

When I first saw the title of the blog and the picture of the cathedral, I thought of all the naked statues of both men and women abounding in Europe. Or the women on magazine covers. The latter really struck me when I first went to Germany in the 70s. I know that at one point my mother explained to me that the shock of nudity in Europe is tempered by the fact that so much art is nude and is finely detailed.

Though I can remember that when I was little, maybe 4 or 5, we went to a lake in Germany for an outing. My mother divested me of all my clothes and shooed me into the lake. Then, horror of horrors, my father took a picture of me. I can still remember pleading with my mother not to do that to me, even though other children were running around in the nude. I guess I really grew up a prude.

We came to Canada in the early 50s. My uncle brought along some "lederhosen" you know, those Bavarian shorts made of leather. He was approached by the park supervisors and asked to remove himself from the park. My uncle, being the stubborn kind, decided to resist and ended up paying a fine. He never entered the City Park again out of protest.

How things change.

BTW, in the Dominican Republic we saw plenty of European women going topless, but I didn't see a single man going bottomless. What a disappointment!

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

Susan, were you able to see any other parts of Spain? I heard that the mayor of Valencia, a woman, had really done a great job in polishing up the city in order for it to host the America's Cup. I wanted to go to Valencia when I toured with my parents before I came home from Europe but unfortunately we didn't get to see it. My favorite places are Granada and Cordoba because of the Moorish influence. Stunning.

5:08 PM  
Blogger susan andersen said...

Rangurgis, I also went to Granada, which I loved, Cordoba, which was my least favorite city, but still had some wonderful sights, Ronda, one of the white hill towns that was probably my very favorite, Barcelona and Madrid. I took over 300 photos. I'm crazy about old architecture and statuary and reliefs, and there was so much of all of those everywhere we went.

7:30 PM  
Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

Okay, Susan, I think you just won the Most Unusual Blog Title of the Month award. Sounds like a VERY interesting trip to Spain!

Love the statue shot by the way.

--Jayne

5:36 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

Did you get to see the cathedral/mosque in Cordoba? That's what I found the most intriguing there though i would have preferred the mosque without the Catholic parts. I just found all those arches stunning and especially the inner sanctum of the mosque part. Absolutely stunning like many parts of the Alhambra in Granada. Ever since I saw the Court of the Lions in my Grade 11 history book, I've wanted to see it, and I definitely was not disappointed. The only part that I did not like there was a boxlike building built by Charles V just outside the grounds of the Alhambra. Otherwise, it's one of my favorite places in the world. So is Carcassonne in southern France.

10:05 AM  

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