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Tuesday, June 26, 2007

Elizabeth G. spills her guts: ANOTHER Dirty Little Secret.

It was only four weeks ago today I came out of the closet and admitted right here at Running With Quills that I’m a pack rat. I gave all the sordid details, including the stilettos I have squirreled away for “someday,” while in reality I go barefoot most of the time, and the half dozen pairs of assorted blue jeans neatly hanging in the guest room closet when I haven’t worn a pair of jeans in a decade.

It is now public knowledge that I haven’t seen the floor of THE ABYSS (aka the large storage closet in my office) in heaven knows how long — certainly not in this century. I also volunteered that I’m a Virgo and blabbed about being an inveterate list maker.

So, here goes with Confession #2: I HATE PACKING!

Hold the phone, Josephine! I’ve just noticed something curious, folks, something odd, something kind of peculiar. Packing and pack rat are from the same root word: pack, meaning to make into a compact bundle, to crowd together, to increase the density of, to fill completely.

Hm . . . something to think about.

Anyway, as I was saying, I hate everything about packing starting with the thankless job of lugging the suitcases up from the basement. (Okay, so my husband carries them up the two flights of stairs, but I’m the one who has to make the tough choices: like which suitcase/s we’re going to need for the upcoming trip.)

From there, it’s one annoying decision after another. What clothes to take? Dressy or casual? Wrinkle-free or the ones that claim to be? Use the rolling method of packing or the plastic cleaner bags technique? What shoes will I need? How many pairs? Handbags? Jewelry? Cosmetics. Toiletries? (Tricky category, toiletries: you have to double-check every darned bottle and tube to make sure you’re not packing empties.)

The list goes on and on.

You’d think because I hate packing so much, I’d put it off until the last minute. Au contraire, my friends. I start at least a month beforehand with a computerized packing list tailored to the specific trip, taking into account climate, length of trip, type of activities planned, events to be attended, etc. Then I begin. You see, I trick myself into doing the odious job of packing one teeny, tiny task at a time. Press one shirt. Fold one nightgown. Fill one shampoo bottle. You get the idea.

It’s almost like I’m NOT packing at all.

Anyway, it's summer and that means a lot of traveling for a lot of people, which translates into packing and more packing. (I don't even want to go into that whole subject of UNpacking.)

So, of course, Inquiring Minds want to know: Are you an organized packer or do you procrastinate until the last possible moment? Do you have any helpful hints for the rest of us when it comes to the odious job of packing?

Happy Travels!

EG

38 Comments:

Anonymous Shoshana said...

Wow, you're organized with it even though you hate it? That's a lot of time spent on something you dislike! But then, you're a successful author, so I know you have self-discipline.
Personally, I throw stuff together last-minute. Mostly. I THINK about what I'm going to throw into the bag, but it's still all done the night before. But then, all of my friends have keys to my place, and they all are used to getting rung up: 'Can you send me _____ care of so-and-so? I forgot again.'
Friends are very handy! And they're a great excuse to go shopping for postcards and little things to bring back, hee hee hee!
Of course, camping is trickier, but then, it's camping: I'm already resigned to roughing it!
Do you pack for multiple trips in advance, or wait for one to end and the unpacking to be finished before starting the next?

8:20 PM  
Blogger karende said...

I was a do-it-at-the-last-possible-minute type, but I did have a little bag of toiletries for traveling. That made it a bit easier. By far the worst trip I ever packed for was a conference held in southern California, which was 3 days long, to be capped by a week visiting a friend in Anchorage. In February. February is nice in California, flowers blooming, even - but it’s not at all warm in Anchorage in February. So I had to pack 2 suitcases, and after living so long in Alaska, I didn’t even own anything at all useful in the way of hot weather clothing. As it turned out, it didn’t much matter. The airline people got me on the wrong plane [usually it seems to be the luggage that gets misplaced, not the passenger] and I landed at LAX instead of John Wayne. My luggage all arrived before I did, but they also close and lock the terminal at sundown. When I left for Anchorage, I had an assortment of papers and reference materials and grant notifications that came to nearly 70 lbs all by itself. After all that, we weren’t even given time to visit Disney World, and I had to pay extra charges on the excess baggage. It was certainly nice to get home!

karibear

9:13 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

Actually, that's the second "dirty little secret" we share, just that the second one isn't quite in the same way.

BTW, I am so thankful to you for giving me such a great name for my "Abyss": the hodgepodge of boxes and boards and who knows what else down in the basement in his building. I didn't get a chance to comment on the first "little secret". I also have a multitude of boxes in my apartment waiting to be sorted and unpacked. And, in addition to all that, I have a storage unit with more boxes. These aren't terribly big but there must be close to 150 or more containing mainly books, as do the ones in the basement. I'm a terrible pack rat.

As for packing, I try to be organized by making a list of things needed. I even take out the suitcase(s) and start putting in a few things. Then decide to take another bag or suitcase instead. I've now adopted my sister's roll method for clothing for the last two trips. Then I take things out again and if I'm very lucky, there are just a few things that need to be done when I get picked up. Hmm, like getting dressed.

Forgetting things: for my last trip to Mexico, I made sure I had all the important things like my passport in my handbag. My brother picked me up after I'd kept him waiting for my call and we started off for Toronto. So he asked me if I had my ticket (my other brother had it), money (sort of), my passport. Yep, put that into my purse first. Then I thought as we were driving along about half an hour out of London: I'd better check. I turned my purse inside out, upside down and no passport. Luckily, we had plenty of time so I admitted to my brother that I didn't have it after all.

So back we went. When I got home, I found that I had forgotten to lock up my apartment, something that has happened several times when I was picked up: change in routine. I went inside and looked for my passport. I couldn't find it immediately but saw something else I'd meant to take along and underneath that I found my passport and a few other important items. At one point I'd wanted to switch purses and took these items out before deciding to take the original purse after all. There were several other things that needed taking care of but finally we got going again after I made certain that the door to my apartment, an outside door at ground level in an area sometimes frequented by shady characters, was securely locked. I did *not* tell my brother about that.

9:39 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

Oh, karibear, how awful. I think the first flight I was ever on, I had to pay extra too. I was flying to Europe for a year. A lot of things my parents sent by mail but still, there were gifts I had for all the people I hadn't seen in 11 years.

Then on one flight from Winnipeg, MB to London, ON, my bag was marked for London, UK. Now it's possible that I was returning from Toronto to Germany via London, UK and that the tickets I had, mentioned that somewhere, but this was a direct flight to London, ON. Anyway, we managed to find out in time to let the airline know that my suitcase had been misdirected and wasn't even on my flight. But I had to borrow my sister's clothing for the next few days. Luckily, it was just a small suitcase. I'd left my big one with my brother in Toronto before flying to Winnipeg. After all, I was there for the wedding of the brother that lives in London, ON.

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Shoshana said...

You guys are making me nervous. I packed two months ago for the trip I'm still on, and I knew then there would be five stops and then I'd be in Costa Rica for a year and no returning 'home' in between, and I ended up with two suitcases, one a rolling carry-on, and that's it. Argh! Now I've got to go through everything with me to doublecheck everything's here!
Sigh. Oh, well, like I said. My friends are used to mailing things to me.

10:40 PM  
Blogger karende said...

Shoshana, most flights go fairly smoothly. But I do have one other classic story of godawful mixups, fortunately this one didn’t involve me!

The place I worked, one of the Native Associations in Alaska, sent doctors around to various villages on a regular schedule. One of our docs went to St Paul Island in the Pribilofs, which if it’s on a map at all, is a tiny dot west of the mainland in the Bering Sea. It’s a very small village, no grocery store, certainly no hotels. People who go there either have to bring everything with them or be related to someone who they can stay with. The docs were supposed to stay in the clinic, bringing their own food and sleeping bags. Our doc’s stuff all got sent to the other St Paul, the one in Minnesota. She was fortunate enough to find people who lent her blankets and fed her while she was there. And it took the airline quite awhile to figure out just what they’d done with her things.

karibear

11:09 PM  
Blogger Pia said...

EG,

I love to travel but I always wait for the last possible minute before I pack. The thing that has helped me a lot is a few days before packing I make a list of everything that we need to bring.
Whatever we pack depends on where and the purpose of our trip.

When I was young my mom and I would go shopping in Hong Kong we would bring very minimal clothing and buy everything there including a cheap suitcase. That was really fun.

Several years ago my friends and I went to Bataan in the Philippines
I was so excited but did not know what to bring, my friends were very vague in describing the place so I brought 2 full suitcases of stuff (which contained books and magazines, insect repellant, bottled water, etc), my friends forgot to mention one tiny thing...there was a 30 minute hike to the hotel, good thing my suitcases had wheels - but still. That was a very memorable trip. :D
Pia

11:32 PM  
Blogger DFender said...

EG,

I keep our carry-on packed year-round with toiletries and one change of clothes for each of us so that when we travel we only need to throw in prescription meds and cell phone chargers and we're done with that piece of luggage.

The HHP packs his own, very nicely even...LOL. I pack the night before a trip, however, I have all my laundry finished and climate-chosen clothes put in a pile, usually a day or so prior.

It's not too difficult to me, but we only travel about five times per year so it'd be a small price to pay for a get-away.

As Jimmy Buffett sings: I wanna go where the weather suits my clothes! :-)

Deb

3:27 AM  
Anonymous Dee from Australia said...

We go flying in Dec. for our summer hols. these stories of lost luggage and wrong planes could make someone nervous if so inclined but hey, we are only going from Sydney to Perth. :)

4:43 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

Shoshana said: Do you pack for multiple trips in advance?

Nope, I deal with one trip at a time. What Jayne said about trying to write more than one book at a time also applies to packing: "That way lies madness." :-)

A neighbor is the only one with a key to our house and she's gone a lot, so I know I'd better pack it or else be prepared to buy it on the other end when we're traveling. I'm only surprised it took me so long to figure out a computerized list. I've been doing that for about five years now.

Happy Wednesday!
~EG

7:47 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

kairbear siad: It was certainly nice to get home!

LOLOLOLOL That's often the best part about traveling: getting back home! I have spent way too much time stuck in airports. i.e. I know where every restroom is in O'Hare.

~EG

7:50 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

ranurgis said: BTW, I am so thankful to you for giving me such a great name for my "Abyss."

LOLOLOL You're welcome! Surely we all have an Abyss somewhere in our lives: an apartment or house, a garage, backyard, closet, even a drawer?

~EG

7:54 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

pia said: That was a very memorable trip. :D

LOLOLOL I have a few memories like that myself, pia. One thing I've learned about traveling: it never goes as planned.

It's all well and good to be an organized packer, but if your suitcases don't end up in the same city as you do (as karibear points out in her post)---then it's all for naught.

I'm trying to become more laid back and flexible when I travel. Trying being the key word. :-)
~EG

8:02 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

Deb said: As Jimmy Buffett sings: I wanna go where the weather suits my clothes! :-)

I love that Jimmy Buffett song!!!!
And I love the sentiment behind that thought.

Sigh.
EG

8:04 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

dee from australia said: these stories of lost luggage and wrong planes could make someone nervous if so inclined.

LOLOLOLOL Please don't let us "rain on your parade." I'm sure we've all had trips that went without a hitch, too.

Seriously, being flexible and philosophical about unexpected problems is the only way to travel these days. :-)
~EG

8:08 AM  
Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

Wow, EG, your approach to packing sounds downright painful. Me, I wait until the last minute and throw everything into the suitcase at once. I will admit that I use a preprinted list that I made up a while back to make sure I don't forget stuff like deodorant. Some things are best not left to chance.

--Jayne

10:18 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

HMMMmmmm. Guess I should worry more about packing. But we've done so much traveling that the only thing I care about is the question: What CAN'T I buy when I get there.

Whatever is really hard to replace goes in my carry-on. The rest...can be replaced if I forget something.

My agent calls it "living off the land." I call it living out of Wal-Mart.

10:52 AM  
Blogger Ladytink_534 said...

Lol! I'm actually packing right now! We're going to my mom's and mother-in-laws for a week (and it's 6 hours away). I'm a last minute-take everything packer but since I do this every couple of months I've got it down pat!

11:07 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

Jayne said: Some things are best not left to chance.

LOLOLOLOLOL You can say that again, Jayne!

Actually I know part of my aversion to packing stems from an aversion to ironing. Packing for a trip is one of the few times I actually iron, too. (Another lifelong aversion.)
:-)
~EG

11:18 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

EL said: I call it living out of Wal-Mart.

Love that, Elizabeth the First!

It's kind of right up there with clean restrooms while on a road trip. (Thank goodness for McDonald's is all I can say.)
~EG

11:23 AM  
Blogger Brandy said...

I wait to pack the night before and carry a mental list of what will be needed. I've never forgotten anything yet!

11:28 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

ladytink said: ...since I do this every couple of months I've got it down pat!

Yep, I'm the same way for the roadtrips to our son's house a couple of hours away. I've got that one down pat. And, since it's just for the weekend, I actually don't pack until the night before. However, I still use a packing list. :-)
~EG

11:29 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

brandy said: I've never forgotten anything yet!

Wow, I'll confess I am impressed, brandy.

I think I make lists for everything, including packing, because I'm afraid I'll forget something important, not because I actually have. I guess there are listmakers and non-listmakers in life. :-)

Happy Wednesday!
~EG

11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too funny EG!

I must confess, I always stress over packing. Start about 2 weeks ahead, making lists with everything I could possible want or need (and yes usually this means several loads of laundry immediately before that) a couple of days before anticipated departure. Panic about 1/2 hour before departure, frantically throw everything out of the case and re-pack with a totally different set of stuff. And I STILL don't have the right mix when I get wherever I'm going! eeeeek.

On the other hand, my DH grabs a paper (grocery) bag - yes you read that right - about ten minutes before we leave - and throws a few things in. One year he totally forgot to pack socks ... didn't realize it till we got there and he was out of the shower with no clean ones to put on. Yes a trip to Wal-mart loomed large on our horizon before we could go to dinner -- gotta love the guys! (They make us look so good)

LynneW

12:05 PM  
Blogger DFender said...

EG,

It IS an awesome Buffett tune... actually a cover of someone else's but he does such a nice job and the sentiment is wonderful! The HHP and myself are big Buffett fans... LOL

As for travel mishaps... bear with me, it's convoluted! The worst was being grounded in Cleveland because of storms in Boston for our trip to Switzerland to get to Rome. We were flying to Boston to meet friends that were traveling with us and due to the delay we landed in Boston just in time to watch our SwissAir flight take off, with our Boston friends on it! We ended up getting to Switzerland and Rome the next day but the irony was amazing!

Packing? Well, I admit I over packed for Italy because I wasn't sure what I could and couldn't buy there... everywhere else, I shop Target for stuff I didn't realize I'd need on the trip...LOLOL.

Great blog, EG!

Deb

1:40 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

LynnW~I'm relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who stresses a tad over packing. :-)

The only time I packed and forgot something essential (undies)was one of those emergency trips made for a family medical crisis. Thank goodness the hospital carried an assortment of undies, so I must not have been the only who had to buy them onsite.

Happy Mid-week!
~EG

2:47 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

Deb~LOLOLOLOLOL

Thanks for the laugh over your ill-fated trip. I've had a few of those myself. (We landed in Paris for two weeks to tour the French wine country and NO luggage. It did finally catch up with us...one bag at a time. But the wine eased the pain.:-)

~EG

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Ranurgis said...

My problem with lists, any kind of list, is that they all get lost or forgotten--in the case of grocery lists.

That's where all these boxes to sort come in. I'll probably find them all somewhere in the different boxes.

I love being organized and I pretty much used to be until I ended up living in places where I just didn't have enough space for everything.

Now, so I tell myself, my illness is at least partly to blame. My doctor gave me a word of encouragement yesterday. That's what I need every once in a while and he knows it. But he doesn't have only patients with what I have but friends as well. Makes for much better understanding and compassion. My family just tell me to "suck it up".

9:52 PM  
Anonymous AgTigress said...

I use a list, which I edit and update on the computer for different trips (obviously one doesn't use exactly the same list for, say, Wales in December and Egypt in April - but it is surprising just how much is the same).

Just before our most recent trip to Egypt, I was amused to notice that my husband had simply photocopied my list, which I had left lying around, and had merely crossed out some items (e.g. 'bras') and added others ('pyjamas'). It seemed to work for him!

What I hate more than packing is the unpacking when one returns. I always finish up leaving something in the suitcase, because I can't be bothered to put it away properly.

Suitcases going astray - I do have one suitcase that visited Seattle many years before I did, when it was supposed to be travelling from Indianapolis to Gatwick, via Boston.

:-)

5:51 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

ranurgis said: . . . living in places where I just didn't have enough space for everything.

You have my complete sympathy! At least each time I've moved it's been to a larger house, which I then seem to fill up.

I'm seriously thinking of turning over a new leaf and beginning to declutter this summer. But I don't want anyone to hold their breath or hold me to it. :-)
~EG

9:05 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

agtigress said: What I hate more than packing is the unpacking when one returns.

Exactly! Inevitably unpacking leads to the necessity of doing laundry and then putting everything back in its rightful place. Unpacking can take me as long or longer than packing.:-)

~EG

9:11 AM  
Blogger karende said...

I don’t mind unpacking suitcases as much as trying to unpack boxes. When I first went to Alaska, everything I owned fit in one footlocker from the Army/Navy store in Seattle. In all the times I’ve moved since then, I’ve managed to stuff everything into boxes okay, but when I start unpacking, the contents seem to explode to fill all available space! In ‘86, my house burned and nearly everything was destroyed, but when we got our ‘most important’ stuff shipped here this spring [no furniture at all], it amounted to 4,400 lbs, and I have no idea where it all came from. From the way things look now, a 3,000sf house, including a full basement and attic, would be just about right - and since I have trouble with stairs, there’d have to be an elevator, too. And I doubt if it would take me all that long to fill IT to the brim. Just one of those everyday mysteries of life, I guess.

karibear

12:52 PM  
Blogger Stella said...

Oh, Phooey, what a bunch of overwrought rubbish. Throw a suitcase on the bed a couple of hours before you have to leave for the airport. Throw in enough underwear, something to sleep in, some clothes you can roll up in balls and stuff in the corners. Shoes, if possible.

First stop when you get off the plane--WallMart. Of course, while you're on the plane you make the list of things you know you don't have so you can buy itsy sizes from those bins.

And never forget your computer and all that jazz.

I hate packing,

Stella

6:27 PM  
Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

Yes, for me the dreadful part is the unpacking....


--Jayne

7:06 PM  
Blogger susan andersen said...

I kind of like packing. It's unpacking when I get back home that I find a pain.

And I've never taken my computer.

11:45 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

Packing or unpacking aside, I admit I've always had the wanderlust. :-) There are so places I want to see and experience that I've never been to: beginning with Egypt.

I would also like to return to my favorite places in Scotland and England and France and settle in for a month or two. Now that sounds heavenly.

Have a great weekend all!
~EG

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We just got back from a month in Europe, and (to my surprise) we left with 5 days of clothing. The basic assentials, all of which I purchased the day before we left. As you can see I'm a last minute packing type. It was the first time I packed so light for a trip, but I didn't want to be stuck with lots of bags as we were traveling between so many cities during our stay in Europe. It was great, I'll have to do it again. No lists this time, no headache about what to bring what not to bring. I went with the attitude that if we'd forgotten anything, there are stores in Europe we could buy what we needed. The only thing I ended up buying were sandels (since it was HOT when we got there).. and books of course! Who can travel for a month and not read! I was good though - kept it too six books in all...

1:12 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

anonymous~I am so impressed! I swear I'm going to try your approach on my next big trip.

Sounds like you had a great time!

Happy 4th of July to all of those in the USA!
~EG

5:18 PM  

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