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    Monday, May 19, 2008

    SHOULD I JUST LET THEM DIE?



    Put the tissues away. I haven't let anyone die . . . yet.

    Stuff happens to me. Right before my eyes when I'm minding my own business, running an errand, walking my dog, checking plants around the building. Right there, someone does something dangerous and I can't seem to shrug and walk away.

    But should I?

    A woman let her corgi run out of a building, without a leash on, then stood talking to someone while the pooch literally took off to the sidewalk (busy street), shot up several flights of stairs to the street behind the building, and trotted along the middle of the road.

    Stella to the rescue. I chased that dog with my heart thumping and finally caught her about five minutes later. I was lucky, and so was she. But that's when trouble really started. The boss grabbed the dog's collar from me (visualize S-the-tall bent double to tow the little one) as if I was trying to abduct her pet. She was probably frightened she'd lost the corgi or that it had been hurt, but she got nasty.

    Then, oh dear, I got nasty and told her off as if she were a particularly stupid eight-year-old. Shouldn't have done that but couldn't seem to stop after she gave me the mean-eye.

    One day recently I was having my nails hacked off and the door of the salon stood open. Warm day. I hate having anything like that done so I gaze around and forget to move my hands or respond to the cues that tell me what I should do next.

    That day I got involved watching three children of maybe 5 to 7 run around the parking lot outside. A truck pulled in and had to screech to a stop to miss one of the kids. They continued their game as if nothing had happened and when the girl headed into the path of an oncoming car, I levitated. (Pity the nail person.)

    After tracking these kids, who were only playing, I know, into a shop where their moms were engrossed in shopping, I said, with a smile this time, "The children are in danger in the parking lot."
    This time I got smiles back and the children were told to stay in the shop.

    Late at night, walking my dog again, I felt another presence in the dark. I jumped and turned around to see an old man standing by a tree trunk, just standing there looking lost. He was lost, and probably suffering from Alzheimer's. I didn't know what to do. It scared me to approach him, and horrified me to think of just leaving him like that. Soooo, naturally, I picked up my fierce 6lb dog for protection and went back to see if I could help.

    Let's shorten this. I called the police and they were able to find identification on the man. He was a sweet guy and so confused. The cops told me they thought they'd dealt with him before and took him off in their car.

    First, I have no idea why I have this urge to save everyone and everything, regardless of whether they want to be saved. That said, what do you do in these situations? Do you carry on, worry a bit, but not take on another person's issue? Or do you try to help?

    I'm setting everyone free to give me advice:)

    Cheers, Stella

    39 Comments:

    Anonymous AgTigress said...

    My goodness, Stella, I hope you tore several strips off the woman who just let her dog rush out into traffic! How DARE she be angry with you? Apart from the danger to the dog herself, what if she had caused an accident in which people had been injured or even killed? Really, some people are extraordinary.

    I admire your willingness - indeed, compulsion - to get involved. If more people were like you, the world would be a better place. I react as you do when animals are in danger, but I confess that I am a lot slower to intervene on behalf of people, including children.

    1:32 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    What you did is show that you´re a caring person. Sure caution is advisable in some situations, but one shouldn´t just do nothing if it´s possible to help. I think you did well.
    Sirry

    2:25 AM  
    Blogger DFender said...

    Stella,

    Good for you, girl! Unfortunately, there's no vaccine for the stupidity or carelessness of others.

    I've seen children being beaten, not spanked, in the middle of a store. Of course, it's none of my business. And of course I hadta say something. Which did no good... and unfortunately probably earned the children more punishment.

    I have so many stories from volunteering at a battered women's shelter... I won't share them here but suffice to say that after 3 years of volunteer work I was asked politely not to come back. All because I opened my big mouth to a mother that kept returning to an abusive home and endangering her small children. Ah well.

    We can try, Stella, that's all I can say. You should be proud of yourself. I'm proud of you ;-)
    Trying and failing is better than not trying to make a difference at all.

    Deb

    3:40 AM  
    Blogger Lori Foster said...

    I'm with you, Stella. I'd have done the same. The world needs more people like us, for sure, because I know I stay busy, and so does my husband - and apparently, so do you.

    It is nerve-wracking to feel responsible for one and all, but I think it's somehow ingrained in our psyches and there's not much we can do about it. Ignoring those instincts is more painful that listening to them.

    I applaud you, and I'm sorry that anyone, even for a second, wasn't grateful for your help.

    Big hugs,

    Lori

    4:44 AM  
    Blogger Amie Stuart said...

    I just adopted a puppy from the pound that was probably abused so the woman who let her dog run loose gets NO sympathy from me.

    Shame on her!!!

    Same for the mother letting her kids run wild. I have kids, I know what a pain they can be, that's why I get my girly stuff done while they're safely tucked in school. I realize not everyone is that lucky but I'm also very conscious of how my children act in public and they know what's expected of them. I figure I'm doing all three of us a courtesy by not taking them someplace they're going to be bored enough to get into trouble.

    As for the old man --that's just sad =(

    Would I do the same? Yeah, probably. I even remember sitting at RWA last year in Dallas watching these two girls playing around near the 2nd floor resturaunt. My roommate and I watched them and she went over there TWICE and told them to stop before someone fell off. Yes, their mother was apparently nearby but the fact Dennie had to go over there TWICE speaks volumes. I realize we're human, we get distracted but ....ugh!

    7:32 AM  
    Anonymous Lisa Hendrix said...

    Ah, Stella, I knew there was a reason I liked you.

    I've done the same sort of things: Saving a black kitten near a highway on a blacker night (his name is Clouseau now). Scolding a group of children and their parents when the latter let the former put themselves and others in danger. Helping an epiletic man who was having a seizure in the middle of the road.

    Don't you think it's the very best in human nature, to want to help others? My Grammie was big on the Good Samaritan story. She *expected* that good people would help others—which would make you good people in her book. And in mine.

    9:07 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Stella,

    Oh if only there were more people around who are willing to step in when aid is needed. I tend to do the same thing, just wade in and try to fix the situation.

    Unfortunately, it can sometimes be very dangerous. We just had an incident on Saturday night right in the busiest place in the state, Waikiki. A couple of teenagers were trying to snatch a woman's purse. A man stepped in and tried to stop it, not with violence but by talking to them. His generosity was repaid with a severe beating by the teenagers. He was beaten so badly that he died Sunday morning. The entire community is stunned. There were several people who tried to get to the group before the man was severely hurt but were too far away.

    Stories like that tend to make people reluctant to get involved in any incident.

    I sincerely hope no one is ever hurt in their endeavor to aid someone or right a wrong so someone is not hurt. Just be careful who you involve yourself with.

    With sadness for a fallen good samaritan in Hawaii,

    Kathy H.

    12:07 PM  
    Anonymous Susan said...

    I'm agree with what you did in each case. If I had been there with you there would have two of us doing the same thing!

    12:18 PM  
    Blogger Jayne Ann Krentz said...

    You did the right thing, Stella. The urge to help others is one of the better aspects of our very complicated nature.

    12:50 PM  
    Blogger elizabeth said...

    I'm with you, Stella. I've spent more time chasing strays--two- and four-legged--than I care to think about. And Evan is even worse. But when it comes to sentient, yet clueless, beings at danger in a speed-of-light world, well, you just have to do something.

    12:51 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Tigress: The corgi persona was a nightmare!

    Stella

    2:49 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Sirry: Thank you. You aren't, however, helping Jerry out one bit. He thinks I should turn away.

    Stella

    2:50 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Deb: I really admire you for volunteering at a women's refuse. Couldn't do it--I'd be useless.

    Stella

    2:51 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Lori:

    I know all about you! You have my instincts X 2. Poor you. Make sure your energy stays well nourished.

    Stella

    2:53 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Aimee: I'm finding the responses very inspirational tody. People will reach out and take risks to help others. That makes me feel good.

    Stella

    2:55 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Hi Lisa: Good to see you. Again, I know you're a softie! But you also have a lot of commonsense--a good thing.

    Cheers, Stella

    2:56 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Kathy H. That's such a horrible story. This unbridled violence is out of control.

    There's so often some fear that makes you want to hold back and sometimes you have to look at a situation and back off. But on other occasions, you take the chance.

    I read that there was a fight and stabbing at Ching Yung Village in Hanalei. Kauai has had it's problems with violence over the years but things have seemed quiet for quite a long time.

    Cheers, Stella

    3:00 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Susan: Maybe we should come up with name for our fighting duo and go looking for victims!

    Stella

    3:01 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Jayne and Ann:

    Interesting possibilities about the personality. As you see from the comments, the folks around here tend to want to restore order and to "save" others. We are, I'm sure, born with that impulse.

    Cheers, Stella

    3:04 PM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    I think the instinct to go to the aid of strangers (should we call it "the unselfish gene"?) is unique to the human species. Most animals will defend their mates or offspring; many will aid members of their pack or herd; but what others will help outsiders?

    5:45 PM  
    Blogger Elizabeth Guest said...

    You have a big heart and a generous spirit, my friend! :) You do the right thing when it comes to people or animals, which we've talked about many times.

    I simply don't understand anyone who doesn't cherish children and our four-legged companions.

    Hugs,
    EG

    7:23 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Stella,

    Aren't we supposed to be a community? Aren't we supposed to care what happens to the members of our community? No matter what age, race, gender or species, are we not our "brother's" keeper? What moral person could be anything but grateful that you are such a responsible member of their community? I am honored to be in this same community with people like you!

    Lynne Thomas

    6:02 AM  
    Blogger Kate Douglas said...

    Guilty on all counts. My husband is usually the one telling me not to get involved (unless it's a four-legged critter, and then he's there first) but when I see something "that needs fixin'" it's like my brains go out the window and some weird instinct to help takes over. Kathy H, your story makes me sad. Our kids live on Oahu, and I've always felt so safe when we're there visiting. That's not the sort of thing I associate with Hawaii.

    10:34 AM  
    Anonymous AgTigress said...

    KathyH: the distressing story you recount is the reason why I said what I did near the beginning of this thread - that I would still wade in as Stella did if an animal were at risk, because that is just pure instinct, but I would definitely hesitate and reflect if the apparent victim were human. This is not because of a lack of feeling for humans, but because of the dangers of retaliation (and also because I am an old woman, and fairly vulnerable myself).

    I am a Londoner, and the kind of scenario you describe, which I'm sure is very rare in Hawaii, is just an everyday event here. Alas, many good samaritans have been murdered for trying to defend others. In fact, innocent passers-by have been knifed for simply looking at a thug. So in London, we have to keep ourselves to ourselves.

    12:05 PM  
    Blogger Ranurgis said...

    Yeah, I know too what it's like to try to do the kind or right thing in helping people in all sorts of ways and then getting my head bitten off because of it. Most of the people around here, I'm glad to say, are careful about letting their animals run loose because they are, by law, obligated to keep them on a leash or inside the house or in a fenced-in enclosure.

    It's the children, however, who do dangerous things at times. You'd think the parents would be grateful for help in getting them out of dangerous situations but some just get angry at you for "interfering." And like the woman with the dog, it is often a result of the scare or embarrassment at not having been vigilant enough.

    I just read this again in a recent book, UBERPOWER (with an umlaut on the U) by Josef Joffe: "When something is everybody's responsibility, it's nobody's responsibility," And so often it's true that we have to make it "our" responsibility to see that good things happen or that bad things do not. I'd rather take the chance on ticking somebody off than see somebody needlessly suffer in any way, like the older gent you helped. Bravo to everyone who does take the responsibility for helping others in any way possible.

    9:07 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Ranurgis:

    You sum up my conclusions on this topic; I'd rather take the chance.

    Stella

    11:57 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Tigress:

    London is so changed that it doesn't seem to resemble the city I used to live in. The wandering thug element is bemusing. Looking into eyes (if you make a mistake and do so) that seem dead is a fearsome thing.

    I know we have to be careful of many situations. Last summer 3 teenage boys decided I was a good target for terror. They were on skateboards and positioned themselves in a triangle around me. Must have taken a lot of courage to do that to a woman on her own, her hands filled with groceries.

    Yes, I simply walked on, ignoring the taunting--which was horrible--but they kept it up until I took out a cel phone and started to dial. They took off.

    These things can happen to you regardless of what you're doing. Behaving like a helpless victim at such times is not a smart thing to do.

    Stella

    12:07 AM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Tal--that's true although dogs will defend their humans.

    Stella

    12:08 AM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Kate: How does that happen? The brains out of the windo thing:)

    Stella

    12:09 AM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Thank you, Lynn. Ditto:)

    12:11 AM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    EG--Love from one softy to another:)

    Stella

    12:12 AM  
    Anonymous AgTigress said...

    Yes, London has changed a lot in some ways, but probably no more than most large cities. It seems incredible now that, when I was around 15-16 years old, my parents had no particular concerns about my going to see a film in the West End with friends and travelling home on the tube late at night. But the 1950/60s were an unusually safe time: from all accounts, Victorian London, for instance, was a place where one had to watch one's step, so maybe today's conditions are the big-city norm. I think that the key difference now compared with 50 years ago is the prevalence of heavy drug use in some sections of the community, and this is certainly not peculiar to London.

    In spite of the apparent remoteness of Londoners, who avoid looking directly at strangers, let alone speaking to them, for very good reasons (one of the things that tourists sometimes intrepret as 'unfriendly'), I know that when required, Londoners are kind and helpful. A few years ago, I tripped on the uneven paving-stones in Oxford Street (very like the fall that Susan described in her blog), grazing my knee, spraining my wrist, and making myself feel like a total idiot. Immediately people came to my aid; I had fallen outside a shop selling sports shoes and clothing, and a couple of the young men working there rushed out, ushered me in to sit down and compose myself, brought me a glass of water (don't know why that would help, but it's the thought that counts!), and were generally very sweet and concerned. It was not as though I was a potential customer - just a careless elderly female who had come a cropper outside their shop.

    For every grim story of mindless violence, one can quote one of kindness, generosity and sympathy. So at a deeper level, maybe things haven't really changed much.

    4:32 AM  
    Blogger talpianna said...

    Stella: Dogs are pack animals, and they consider their human the alpha member of the pack. (If properly trained; one of the problems with many large disobedient dogs is that they are under the impression that THEY are the alphas. Some trainers use canine methods on them, things an alpha wolf would do to challengers, like baring teeth and staring, until the dog backs down and exhibits subservient behavior.)

    Kate, I think all large cities have come to this. But fortunately there are still good Samaritans and neighborly neighbors too.

    7:45 PM  
    Blogger Errin Ricketts said...

    i was once driving home from a crappy day at work and i saw this lady standing by her vehicle on a main road during rush hour traffic directing people around her vehicle i pulled up behind her then decided to get out and see if i could help her. her car had broken down in a turning lane and her hazards weren't working it was about minus 30 out and she wasn't really bundled up but because her hazards weren't working she had to stand out and direct people around her car. she had phoned a two company but because it was rush hour it would be awhile before they could get there so i offered to park behind her and be her hazard lights till the tow truck came. she seemed so grateful so i did we ended up sitting there for half an hour till the tow truck came i then asked her if she needed a ride somewhere and she siad she was fine she had a friend coming to the tow company to pick her up so we said goodbye and she left. i never saw her again but my theory was and still is if you would like someone to do that for you you should be willing to do that for others. and wouldn't ya know it several months later i was broke down on the side of the highway and was trying to push my car back to a friends who lived a couple miles away up a gradual incline. as i was pushing a fellow witha truck and some tow cables stopped and hooked me up and hauled my car to my friends. so i guess the saying what goes aroudn comes around is all to true so keep helping others because someday it may be you who needs help.

    2:30 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Tigress and Errin:

    You're both right. We'll find good and bad wherever we go and I certainly have my stack of memories about the kind hands held out to me.

    Stella

    5:37 PM  
    Blogger Stella said...

    Tal: All very true of dogs but I'll continue to think of them as loyal friends. We have to raise them well, just as we attempt to raise any children well, but a "good" dog comes shining through.

    I have noises I use on Millie. A low firm, Pst is something she hates and stops for. It's too easy to spoil small dogs but they have to be given rules.

    Stella

    5:40 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Stella, you're a wonderful, caring person...I guess we will just have to deal with it!!!

    6:55 PM  
    Blogger Ranurgis said...

    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this here, but a wise woman (my mother) once told me this after I complained that I couldn't repay my debts of kindness:

    Don't worry about "repaying" a debt. Just be kind to others who might need your help in some way.

    It's the idea behind "Pay It Forward." I can remember when the movie came out that critics and viewers called it saccharine, embarrassing and worse. Maybe for them it was, but if we had more people who thought about life that way, there would be fewer wars, less discrimination, less crime, etc.

    And when a book about taking advantage of people, about becoming a "jerk" becomes a bestseller, we really must evaluate our society. Is our purpose in life solely to aggrandize our own good or to contribute to the good of others. That reminds me of JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." In my opinion, that means our fellow human beings.

    10:38 AM  
    Blogger Ranurgis said...

    As Kathy H. recounted, it is definitely getting more dangerous for all of us to come to someone's aid.

    Should it stop us from helping?

    I really don't know how I would react in such a situation. But I know that I would blame myself for the rest of my life if something bad happened to another person, or even an animal, while I just stood by and watched.

    10:47 AM  

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